Re: Re: If Superman's Strength is 100
Thor = 60
Hulk = 90-100
Vision = 70
Wonder Woman = 90
Foara = 90
Nam Ek = 105
Kurse = 110
Doomsday = 120
Ultron = 70
General Zod = 100
Edit. Forgot the new "feats" in MoS (the movie was so forgettable, I honestly forgot I even watched it for a moment, and I mean this with all honesty no joke), editing to take them into consideration.
Re: Re: Re: If Superman's Strength is 100
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Thor = 60
Hulk = 90-100
Vision = 70
Wonder Woman = 90
Foara = 90
Nam Ek = 105
Kurse = 110
Doomsday = 120
Ultron = 70
General Zod = 100Edit. Forgot the new "feats" in MoS (the movie was so forgettable, I honestly forgot I even watched it for a moment, and I mean this with all honesty no joke), editing to take them into consideration.
A bit strange you forgetting that movie when Wonder Woman is on the list, and her only appearance is in that film.
So any particular reason you have Wonder Woman and Vision above Thor.
Re: Re: Re: Re: If Superman's Strength is 100
Originally posted by Darth Thor
A bit strange you forgetting that movie when Wonder Woman is on the list, and her only appearance is in that film.So any particular reason you have Wonder Woman and Vision above Thor.
I know, dude. It's crazy that I would remember WW and DD (whose only appearances are in that movie) but somehow forget Superman entirely when I went in my head to remember their "feats" in comparison to his. My brain went straight to MoS without ever even considering BvS. I don't know how that happened, but I'm not joking or lying when I say that's how my brain reacted.
Well, while it could be attributed to his mass or his powers or his vibranium shell, I seriously cannot see Thor shrugging off a 20 ton bus (or Superman or Hulk or even Kurse for that matter) like nothing and breaking it half without even budging an inch. As for WW, I attribute it to the strength "levels" that are indicative in BvS as she did well against DD (didn't she block some of his hits with her shield?). Call it powerscaling (but in all honesty, it's closer to "guessing" than anything, but so far that's all I have to go on atm as I really can't remember much of how the fight went in BvS).
^ I think Thor does well when you power scale his fights against Hulk or even the 400% IM.
Also I know it's not canon because it was deleted, but there was that deleted combat scene from AOU of Thor fighting Vision in H2H, which I think gives an indication of the comparative strength they had in mind:
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Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ I think Thor does well when you power scale his fights against Hulk or even the 400% IM.Also I know it's not canon because it was deleted, but there was that deleted combat scene from AOU of Thor fighting Vision in H2H, which I think gives an indication of the comparative strength they had in mind:
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Well, never saw that deleted scene. Where does one get a copy of it? The Blu Ray?
It does seem like they were being portrayed as equals or peers at least. Although this is a Vision unfamiliar with his powers and that his ability is to alter his mass and that could factor in his stats later on (it definitely does in the comics) or maybe it's Thor just being tough enough to take on a slightly stronger opponent. Can't really explain any better than that.
All things considered, I really can't see many characters shrugging off and splitting that bus in half without even budging an inch using only one arm. We can perhaps attribute it to his durability/mass powers/vibranium shell. But the fact he didn't even budge HAS to be considered a strength showing.
We can always say they're peers with Vision having a slight advantage in terms of top "feats".
Anyway, won't stall, gotta go to the gym before it gets too late.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Well, never saw that deleted scene. Where does one get a copy of it? The Blu Ray?
I've just seen it on youtube. But yeah I'm guessing the Blu-Ray which I never bought for AOU.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
It does seem like they were being portrayed as equals or peers at least. Although this is a Vision unfamiliar with his powers and that his ability is to alter his mass and that could factor in his stats later on (it definitely does in the comics)
Was he unfamiliar with his powers? He does phase through Cap's shield throw. Plus he was firing from his gem.
It seems he was more unfamiliar of his own awareness/existence.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
or maybe it's Thor just being tough enough to take on a slightly stronger opponent. Can't really explain any better than that.
I'd personally say they're peers in strength but Vision is more durable.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
All things considered, I really can't see many characters shrugging off and splitting that bus in half without even budging an inch using only one arm. We can perhaps attribute it to his durability/mass powers/vibranium shell. But the fact he didn't even budge HAS to be considered a strength showing.We can always say they're peers with Vision having a slight advantage in terms of top "feats".
I honestly think any difference between the 2 is more to do with Vision's density control/durability.
Of course I should point out that because the scene was deleted that it's not canon, but still I'd say it gives us an idea of the comparative strength the creators had in mind. And I honestly see nothing from the other films which would contradict what happens in that deleted fight.