Originally posted by Darth Thor
I've just seen it on youtube. But yeah I'm guessing the Blu-Ray which I never bought for AOU.Was he unfamiliar with his powers? He does phase through Cap's shield throw. Plus he was firing from his gem.
It seems he was more unfamiliar of his own awareness/existence.
I'd personally say they're peers in strength but Vision is more durable.
I honestly think any difference between the 2 is more to do with Vision's density control/durability.
Of course I should point out that because the scene was deleted that it's not canon, but still I'd say it gives us an idea of the comparative strength the creators had in mind. And I honestly see nothing from the other films which would contradict what happens in that deleted fight.
Well, he was acting more on instinct that rational thought at the time. Indicative of his movement. Again, at this point, this is not just speculation, we're basing it on a non canon (are deleted scenes non canon here?) scene so we really shouldn't go forward with this train of thought tbh.
I also said peers (but not equal).
If we base it on the bus scene, strength HAS to play a part. That is not questionable here. Even assuming the bus shattered because of Vision's density, shouldn't we assume that he has the necessary strength to support said density? The same density that managed to cut a 20-ish ton bus in half and not budge an inch? Again, having the strength needed to perform such a "feat" is something I see kinda above Thor.
But I will repeat that, for me, this is speculation. There is very little to differentiate Thor's strength from Vision. They are peers. I just feel that Vision has the greater strength of the two based on portrayal. Or maybe he doesn't. I can certainly agree to either conclusion. /shrug
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Don't remember Kurse having any major strength feats. His power was more from his Indestructibility IIRC.
His strength feats was demolishing thor, picking up a rock and one shotting thor and swatting away the hammer, his power was not Indestructibility in the slightest, he was actually very destructible, other versions of Kurse was taken down by swords and spears.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
What has Superman done strength wise to put him ahead of Hulk and Kurse?
Barely touching the batmobile and causing it to crash and then ripping the top off.
Pulling a freighter ship through solid ice.
Lifting a space rocket over his head.
Demolishing a semi truck with tree's
Pushing submerged bus full of water and kids out of the water as a kid.
Lifting a car off him like it was nothing.
Anything else?
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Barely touching the batmobile and causing it to crash and then ripping the top off.Pulling a freighter ship through solid ice.
Lifting a space rocket over his head.
Demolishing a semi truck with tree's
Pushing submerged bus full of water and kids out of the water as a kid.
Lifting a car off him like it was nothing.
Anything else?
huh? Most of those aren't even above some of Hulks meh feats, let alone his better ones.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Barely touching the batmobile and causing it to crash and then ripping the top off.Pulling a freighter ship through solid ice.
Lifting a space rocket over his head.
Demolishing a semi truck with tree's
Pushing submerged bus full of water and kids out of the water as a kid.
Lifting a car off him like it was nothing.
Anything else?
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
His strength feats was demolishing thor, picking up a rock and one shotting thor and swatting away the hammer, his power was not Indestructibility in the slightest, he was actually very destructible, other versions of Kurse was taken down by swords and spears.
Oh great I have to watch it again then, but I'm pretty sure it was stated Kurse couldn't be hurt. IOW his core power was being indestructible.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
When you see Ironman @ 400% keep up with Thor, knowing that Kal would one shot Ironman, and they still think Thor can keep up with Kal, while getting wrecked by Kurse who is way below Kal, there is no sense in talking to them.
Well thor isn't a murdering emotional dick if that helps