Whose tech is superior ?

Started by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ16 pages
Originally posted by Chosen_Sith
The warhammer universe would also say "Warhammer vs Trek? Warhammer vs Star Wars? How about 2v1 and I'll still casually solo both?"

And then Galactus would up and oneshot all of them. 🙂

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Ironic you post here but abandoned the gdf.
😂

Originally posted by Nai
Just for reference, if somebody should still view this and somehow believe in Quanchis wilder theories:

YouTube video

We get glimpses of the Endor space battle from the Death Star in which the Executor is visible in the middle from 3:16 - 4:10 . You can see that it is hit by some rather serious enemy fire, which I will explain later. Here are just the stats from that scene (instances in which Executor is visible and hits on the ships shielding):

3:16 - 3:22 = 2 hits in 6 seconds (possible a third hit)
3:49 = 1 hit in 1 second
3:57 - 3:59 = 0 hits in 2 seconds
4:05 - 4:10 = 2 possible hits in 5 seconds

So in the relative short screen time of 14 seconds, the Executor is hit by massive enemy fire for 3 to 6 times. Going with the lower estimates, we can expect a hit on the Executor by heavy weapons every 5 seconds. And before somebody even tries to suggest something else: Those are explosion of weapon-fire as exploding Star Fighters (which is all there is except for the capital ships) would have been far smaller at that distance and none of the forces involved were close to the Death Star in order to have one exploding closer to the space station, leading to some false scaling here.

Now when I say heavy weapons, just have a look at the fireball we see here:

Close Up:

Going by the size of the Executor (19 kilometers length), that fireball is roughly 1.5 to 2 kilometers in diameter. Fortunately, we have detailed data for explosions (of nuclear weapons) in space right here, saying that the detonation of the TEAK Bomb (3.8 Megatons) did genereate a fireball that reached a 3.25 mile (about 5.2 kilometers) in diameter. That would lead to an estimate of 1.1 to 1.5 megatons for the explosion we see on screen. And the Executor was taking hits like that at least every five seconds and throughout the entire space battle. In case you are like Quanchi and can't grasp math: That kind of explosion would engulf ships like the Nu-Trek Enterprise completely.

Now, even assuming that all scenes shown in the movie between the start of the space battle and the destruction of the Executor ran parallel, the fight couldn't have lasted less than ten minutes. That would mean that, given the average time/hit rating seen above, the Executor would have taken about 120 hits of that order of magnitude, adding anything that was fired at it from the starfighters.

But that is still not everything, as Admiral Ackbar orders the entire Rebel fleet to focus fire on the Executor. And even if that lasts only for five seconds, going by the scene linked above again (watch 3:16 to 3:21), there are up to 4 of those heavy explosions happening per second in the spacebattle, with the Stardestroyers ordered not to return fire on the Rebellion's capital ships. So we just see the Rebels firing. Going from there, that means that specifically in its "final" moments, the Executor was probably target to a pretty huge amount of firepower.

For comparison, we may again have a look at Star Trek:

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A single hit, from the Narada's weapons (note how the second torpedo actually misses the target entirely), that does generate a tiny explosion compared to the stuff hitting the Executuor in the ROTJ space battle, does structural damage to the Enterprise and takes down the ships shields to 32 percent. And that is some of the most "futuristic" tech the entire Star Trek universe has in its hands.

It's rather easy to imagine what one of those weapons from Star Wars, that apparently deliver energy that unloads in explosions a kilometer in diameter, would do to those shields and the ship. It's also rather easy to imagine, that Star Trek weapons with that tiny effects, won't do anything to Star Wars shielding, which tanks explosions a hundred or thousand times more powerful, a hundred times over before going down.

Great post, warehouse prolly didn't read it cause he didn't understand it.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Great post, warehouse prolly didn't read it cause he didn't understand it.
Warehouse fears this topic as does the evacuated coward known as Nai.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
And then Galactus would up and oneshot all of them. 🙂

Pretty much. I mean, the chaos gods in the warp would stand the best chance. They're considered nigh omnipotent but if Galactus can start eating the warp like he did Mephisto's realm.. game over. I think Galactus > Chaos Gods. Yup. I know my franchises. 😉

Accept that Odin would oneshot The Warhammer Galaxy, and I may show you mercy. 🙂

Is the Warhammer universe even worth getting into ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Is the Warhammer universe even worth getting into ?

It is imo. Really cool lore and a lot of fantastically made fan projects like the Emperor's text to speech device.

Originally posted by Syndicate
It is imo. Really cool lore and a lot of fantastically made fan projects like the Emperor's text to speech device.
Interesting.

🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
🙂
😉

Victory is mine.

Im sad Elliminst is gone.

He shall return.