Originally posted by quanchi112
Was that in a live action film ? There's lot of trek ships I'm ignoring as well by focusing on the films. I also disagree because the USS Vengeance is quite formidable.
I still stand by the Malevolence
If you wanna be picky I'll throw in the Executor super star destroyer. There ya go
No. An ISD has shown in Episode 5 having multi Kiloton weaponry with its smallest turbolasers and scaling from them their biggest turbolasers would be double digit Megatons levels of firepower, full broadside would probably be approaching a Gigaton. Using databooks an Impstar is said being capable of BDZ'ing a planet which is basically turning a planet into another Mustafar.
Originally posted by The MerchantI go by actual showings not random bs numbers.
No. An ISD has shown in Episode 5 having multi Kiloton weaponry with its smallest turbolasers and scaling from them their biggest turbolasers would be double digit Megatons levels of firepower, full broadside would probably be approaching a Gigaton. Using databooks an Impstar is said being capable of BDZ'ing a planet which is basically turning a planet into another Mustafar.
The numbers come from the showings. An ISD vaporized asteroids that were 20 to 50 meters in diameter in Episode V. There's also how an ISD's acceleration can keep up with the Millennium Falcon which can outrun TIE fighters, in Episode IV we saw X wings go from Yavin IV to the Death Star in at most 8 minutes. A ship in realspace going at relativistic speeds would require energy that can destroy entire continents.
Originally posted by The MerchantNothing was portrayed as powerful at the time as the Death Star which could destroy entire planets. Thing is in Star Trek they can use red matter to take out super novas. Super novas >>>planets. Anything else ?
The numbers come from the showings. An ISD vaporized asteroids that were 20 to 50 meters in diameter in Episode V. There's also how an ISD's acceleration can keep up with the Millennium Falcon which can outrun TIE fighters, in Episode IV we saw X wings go from Yavin IV to the Death Star in at most 8 minutes. A ship in realspace going at relativistic speeds would require energy that can destroy entire continents.
Red Matter was an exotic material that not every faction in NuTrek had and has to use some chain reaction method for it to work like dumping it in the core of a planet. I don't even remember any Supernovas in the first movie. In a war fare that's a pretty null thing to bring up. Death Star was calcd as a Large planet buster and it doesn't use a chain reaction method like Red Matter does, to make a battle station that can destroy large planets plus making it only 160 kilometers is much more impressive.
Originally posted by The MerchantThey used it fine against the Narada.
Red Matter was an exotic material that not every faction in NuTrek had and has to use some chain reaction method for it to work like dumping it in the core of a planet. I don't even remember any Supernovas in the first movie. In a war fare that's a pretty null thing to bring up. Death Star was calcd as a Large planet buster and it doesn't use a chain reaction method like Red Matter does, to make a battle station that can destroy large planets plus making it only 160 kilometers is much more impressive.
The supernova was what wiped out the Romulans home world aka why Nero blamed Spock because he didn't reach the super nova in time before using the red matter. Red matter worked against the Narada and the super nova. 🙂
They had plenty of it as well. Far more impressive than just a planet which it took out as well.
The video speaks for itself
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If arguing overall military tech, SW has it as I don't recall any of the ST movies having ground forces, air support and giant walkers, nor any real troopers. (Abit it's been awhile since I've watched any of the ST movies, but they seemed more about exploration into the unknown with some space battles)
Exploration goes to ST.
Originally posted by ZenwolfAll tech. Trek has Klingons, etc. who kinda are warriors, Romulans, Borg, etc. this isn't just a federation only against the empire type thread. It's tech and weapons of all variety via the films.
If arguing overall military tech, SW has it as I don't recall any of the ST movies having ground forces, air support and giant walkers, nor any real troopers. (Abit it's been awhile since I've watched any of the ST movies, but they seemed more about exploration into the unknown with some space battles)Exploration goes to ST.
Originally posted by quanchi112
All tech. Trek has Klingons, etc. who kinda are warriors, Romulans, Borg, etc. this isn't just a federation only against the empire type thread. It's tech and weapons of all variety via the films.
Right I get that, but I'm still backing SW for overall military tech due to the afore mentioned things. I know there's different races and all in ST, but I don't recall any real ground forces or giant walkers that can blow giant sized holes in structures, nor any air craft support or anything logistical pertaining to maintaining and keeping ground.
Originally posted by The EllimistI have perused that biased site before. They are a tad bit ridiculous.
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