Whose tech is superior ?

No and again I point out, as you noted to take everything into everything into account....which I am, there's no real ground forces in ST is there?

As I recall, I don't recall any giant war walkers, tanks, troopers, air/drop ships, cannons, planetary shield generators that can survive orbital bombardments, enough resources to establish military bases with defensive perimeters, and so on in ST. It's all been mostly space with them.

So as noted, SW has it in terms of military technology.

Exploration I'll give to ST, but SW shouldn't be that far behind with what we see as far as the variety of different alien species and their hyperdrive capability.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
No and again I point out, as you noted to take everything into everything into account....which I am, there's no real ground forces in ST is there?

As I recall, I don't recall any giant war walkers, tanks, troopers, air/drop ships, cannons, planetary shield generators that can survive orbital bombardments, enough resources to establish military bases with defensive perimeters, and so on in ST. It's all been mostly space with them.

So as noted, SW has it in terms of military technology.

They can adapt also to the weapons of the Star Wars aka their lasers, etc. They can also assimilate. Augments(genetically superior), Klingons(warrior like race), Borg, Vulcans, Romulans, etc.

The new film also has plenty of invasion type forces with thousands of ships that would decimate the slower and terrible star destroyers.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Borg.

They can adapt also to the weapons of the Star Wars aka their lasers, etc. They can also assimilate. Augments(genetically superior), Klingons(warrior like race), Borg, Vulcans, Romulans, etc.

The new film also has plenty of invasion type forces with thousands of ships that would decimate the slower and terrible star destroyers.

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Great they can assimilate, fine for them.

But as you said, what is shown in the films only correct?

Ok....again I ask, did they show anything of what I just said? I don't care about space.

Tell me...what GROUND BASED FORCES they have.

They have Klingons....warrior race, ok fine.

Augments...again fine.

Do they have war walkers? Do they have dropships that can drop walkers and troops in mid-combat? Do they have assault ships that could provide air support? Do they have tanks? Do they have cannons? Do they have military bases which could fend off an enemy assault on ground? Do they have planet based shield generators which could protect them from enemy fire?

Originally posted by Zenwolf
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Great they can assimilate, fine for them.

But as you said, what is shown in the films only correct?

Ok....again I ask, did they show anything of what I just said?

Star Wars definitely has more ground forces but I believe a superior Air Force would negate that. They are conquering not trying to minimize casualties. Does a tank have a chance against an F 15 ?

Once the Borg adapt to their weaponry and assimilate they are going to bolster their ranks.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, and there were a lot of Borg shown in the film First Contact.

Star Wars definitely has more ground forces but I believe a superior Air Force would negate that. They are conquering not trying to minimize casualties. Does a tank have a chance against an F 15 ?

Once the Borg adapt to their weaponry and assimilate they are going to bolster their ranks.

Saying yes....doesn't tell me anything.

What tanks do they have? What air ships? What cannons? Tell me something here.

NuTrek Red Matter > All SW.

Originally posted by AncientPower
NuTrek Red Matter > All SW.

Not sure if you're joking but Centerpoint Station y'know.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Saying yes....doesn't tell me anything.

What tanks do they have? What air ships? What cannons? Tell me something here.

Originally posted by AncientPower
NuTrek Red Matter > All SW.

star wars >> star trek

Originally posted by Smoked12345
star wars >> star trek

Lmao @ this abysmal attempt to lessen Trek's extreme inferiority to SW.

Executor solo's all of Starfleet. 19km long, over 5,000 turbolasers and ion cannons, 13 engine thrusters, and Darth Vader and Admiral Peitt at its command.

Star wars. Death star, lightsabers, holocrons, starkiller base, hyperdrive, prosthetics, droids, force fields, tractor beams, etc.

Originally posted by Tondemonai
Lmao @ this abysmal attempt to lessen Trek's extreme inferiority to SW.

Executor solo's all of Starfleet. 19km long, over 5,000 turbolasers and ion cannons, 13 engine thrusters, and Darth Vader and Admiral Peitt at its command.

Originally posted by Rebel95
Star wars. Death star, lightsabers, holocrons, starkiller base, hyperdrive, prosthetics, droids, force fields, tractor beams, etc.

😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hahaha, did you see how slow it was ? What did it do on screen that leads you to believe it solos ? Typical fanboyism. 😂

Slow?

The imperial starfleet moved from behind Yavin IV to circumvent the Rebels in about a minute.

That's hardly an outlier; Rogue Squadron made a wide arc around Yavin to engage the Death Star within minutes; we're talking about them traveling hundreds of thousands of kilometers in like 150 seconds.

Even the Death Star was able to circumnavigate said gas giant in 30 minutes.

Now imagine how much energy these ships must be able to produce to power such accelerations - well, you don't need to imagine. You can do the math, and it works out nicely to the stats in Saxton's Incredible Cross Sections.

You see, when you look past the "gut feeling" technique and actually analyze and calculate the scenes and events in question, Star Wars comes out ahead by orders of magnitude. The math has been done; the Executor actually could crush the entire Alpha Quadrant without breaking much of a sweat. The disparity really is that massive.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Slow?

The imperial starfleet moved from behind Yavin IV to circumvent the Rebels in about a minute.

That's hardly an outlier; Rogue Squadron made a wide arc around Yavin to engage the Death Star within minutes; we're talking about them traveling hundreds of thousands of kilometers in like 150 seconds.

Even the Death Star was able to circumnavigate said gas giant in 30 minutes.

Now imagine how much energy these ships must be able to produce to power such accelerations - well, you don't need to imagine. You can do the math, and it works out nicely to the stats in Saxton's Incredible Cross Sections.

You see, when you look past the "gut feeling" technique and actually analyze and calculate the scenes and events in question, Star Wars comes out ahead by orders of magnitude. The math has been done; the Executor actually could crush the entire Alpha Quadrant without breaking much of a sweat. The disparity really is that massive.

Well from the start of the DS's arrival, it was 15 minutes out from firing range. Then it went to 7 minutes when the attack was going on.

So it took 7 minutes for Red/Gold Squadron to go from Yavin to the DS, that's ridiculously fast.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Slow?

The imperial starfleet moved from behind Yavin IV to circumvent the Rebels in about a minute.

That's hardly an outlier; Rogue Squadron made a wide arc around Yavin to engage the Death Star within minutes; we're talking about them traveling hundreds of thousands of kilometers in like 150 seconds.

Even the Death Star was able to circumnavigate said gas giant in 30 minutes.

Now imagine how much energy these ships must be able to produce to power such accelerations - well, you don't need to imagine. You can do the math, and it works out nicely to the stats in Saxton's Incredible Cross Sections.

You see, when you look past the "gut feeling" technique and actually analyze and calculate the scenes and events in question, Star Wars comes out ahead by orders of magnitude. The math has been done; the Executor actually could crush the entire Alpha Quadrant without breaking much of a sweat. The disparity really is that massive.

Do you want me to pull up a few youtube videos to disabuse you of your notion that the Alpha Quadrant powers possess amazing combat speeds? I just need to show you a Borg Cube battle, or one from the Dominion Wars, lmao.

Regardless, it doesn't matter; as I explained, the combined Alpha Quadrant powers couldn't scratch the paint of the Executor, regardless of how slow you think it is. More meaningful than combat speed is FTL speed; the Executor could strike at any planet within hours of deciding to do so, and there's simply no way for the Alpha Quadrant powers to respond in any meaningful time-frame. They won't get to combat, let alone to show off their non-existent maneuverability.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Travel speed not combat speed. Hugely different.

Star Wars stomps, the Centerpoint Station solos.