Originally posted by DarthAnt66
facepalm It doesn't matter what the reality is, just what the makers of the quote think it is.
And what Beni and co. have been trying to tell you is that the makers of the quote didn't even say this, by the same standards you use to dismiss the Plagueis back cover quote - which came out after Vitiate's creation.
Your only suspiciously delayed response was that this twitter page responding to random tweets carefully consults the authors whereas the publisher writing the blurbs that everyone who buys the book can see does not. 😆
You lost and honestly even admitted it (pages prior).
Lmao if you think discrediting your own quote counts as a victory for you, or that I would see Bane lowballing as a defeat. 👆
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
If I discredited it, as you stated in your third line of rambling, why type two additional lines of rambling?
Lmao, it's called an even-if statement. "You're wrong on point X, but even if you were right on point X, its implications don't matter or even work against you."
I think you're getting a little sloppy. You are enraged and desperate to defeat the shadow of The Sith Emperor The Gideon and now have gone on a hysteria of mass replicated arguments in a desperate attempt to genocide an entire quote...sort of like a certain fictional character... mmm
I can't believe that you people really manage to "debate" this. You just, really, need to ask two questions:
1) Was the source in question released post "Disney Wars"?
2) Has the source "Legends" written on it?
If it's "yes" for 1 and "no" for 2, it is obvious that only Disney canon is considered in which large parts of the EU / Legends don't exist - unless explicitly mentioned in the new canon source material or within the source in question.
This is like quoting one of the Visual Dictionary and assume that it considers stuff outside the movies...
Originally posted by DarthAnt66Dude you realise that the publishers didn't "make" the quote, all they did was publish it. 😂
facepalm It doesn't matter what the reality is, just what the makers of the quote think it is.You lost and honestly even admitted it (pages prior).
Publishers =/= authors, and only Lucas Liscening has the authority to vet material, and determine the facts of continuity. What this guy thinks is irrelevant, as it is wrong, and his opinions could of in no way informed the wording of the text.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66It's really not, but treating the word of this publisher as accurate, you have conceded that the publisher, through whatever means, can make informed and accurate statements regarding canon. Therefore you must assume them informed on continuity when writing the blurbs you've previously dismissed as the opposite, uninformed. 👆
Different. 😬 I'm merely asking the twitter guy for clarification on work already produced. He knew the answer, or at least asked legitimate staff for said answer, and responded.There's a clear distinction from that and then allowing the guy across the room to establish new canon hierarchy or create original content on equal footing than the book itself.
Of course its since been proven the man is not accurate, but that wasn't the contexts in which you made the claim. So the double-standard stands.
Originally posted by The EllimistThe publisher would have no business consulting the author anyway, the only people who are an authority on canon are Lucas Licensing, who vet the authors work and inform them on matters of continuity.
You don't see the petty fogging here? Lmao, it's not like the publisher doesn't consult the author before writing the back blurb.
Now ironically enough Lucas Liscening has a publishing division, so for all we know this "guy in marketing" could well be a Lucas Books employee, far more an authority on canon than Drew. 😂
Yet even if this was instead written by say, Del Rey, the fact remains that we should assume that just as the author's work is vetted and approve by Lucas Licensing, so is the blurb. Which would make it just as canon as the content, regardless of who wrote it. 👆
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Now ironically enough Lucas Liscening has a publishing division, so for all we know this "guy in marketing" could well be a Lucas Books employee, far more an authority on canon than Drew. 😂Yet even if this was instead written by say, Del Rey, the fact remains that we should assume that just as the author's work is vetted and approve by Lucas Licensing, so is the blurb. Which would make it just as canon as the content, regardless of who wrote it. 👆
So Darth Bane > Valkorion?
Thanks but no thanks. I'd prefer to ignore blurbs.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Dude you realise that the publishers didn't "make" the quote, all they did was publish it. 😂Publishers =/= authors, and only Lucas Liscening has the authority to vet material, and determine the facts of continuity. What this guy thinks is irrelevant, as it is wrong, and his opinions could of in no way informed the wording of the text. It's really not, but treating the word of this publisher as accurate, you have conceded that the publisher, through whatever means, can make informed and accurate statements regarding canon. Therefore you must assume them informed on continuity when writing the blurbs you've previously dismissed as the opposite, uninformed. 👆
Of course its since been proven the man is not accurate, but that wasn't the contexts in which you made the claim. So the double-standard stands.The publisher would have no business consulting the author anyway, the only people who are an authority on canon are Lucas Licensing, who vet the authors work and inform them on matters of continuity.
Now ironically enough Lucas Liscening has a publishing division, so for all we know this "guy in marketing" could well be a Lucas Books employee, far more an authority on canon than Drew. 😂
Yet even if this was instead written by say, Del Rey, the fact remains that we should assume that just as the author's work is vetted and approve by Lucas Licensing, so is the blurb. Which would make it just as canon as the content, regardless of who wrote it. 👆
The "PT brigade" 's ongoing victory is quite impressive indeed.
It turned internet sentiment from the Ancients being vastly more powerful than Sidious, to being weaker than Sidious but all quite a bit beyond Vader, to most of them being below Vader but still above Dooku, to now only a few of them even being stronger than Tyranus. Obi Wan vs. Malak would once get a bunch of lol's in favor of Malak; now, most would pick Obi Wan. Kas'im went from being a match for Sidious as a duelist to Kas'im vs. Dooku being a troll thread.
Ant's greatest efforts have been in vain, and by the time he reaches his peak, it will probably be too late. 👆
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Dude you realise that the publishers didn't "make" the quote, all they did was publish it. 😂Publishers =/= authors, and only Lucas Liscening has the authority to vet material, and determine the facts of continuity. What this guy thinks is irrelevant, as it is wrong, and his opinions could of in no way informed the wording of the text. It's really not, but treating the word of this publisher as accurate, you have conceded that the publisher, through whatever means, can make informed and accurate statements regarding canon. Therefore you must assume them informed on continuity when writing the blurbs you've previously dismissed as the opposite, uninformed. 👆
Of course its since been proven the man is not accurate, but that wasn't the contexts in which you made the claim. So the double-standard stands.The publisher would have no business consulting the author anyway, the only people who are an authority on canon are Lucas Licensing, who vet the authors work and inform them on matters of continuity.
Now ironically enough Lucas Liscening has a publishing division, so for all we know this "guy in marketing" could well be a Lucas Books employee, far more an authority on canon than Drew. 😂
Yet even if this was instead written by say, Del Rey, the fact remains that we should assume that just as the author's work is vetted and approve by Lucas Licensing, so is the blurb. Which would make it just as canon as the content, regardless of who wrote it. 👆
Whatever response to that claim you might have had got lost in a fifteen-thousand character long rambling session.