Not as far as I'm aware. It's confirmed in Traitor that life indeed can't exist without the Force, the Vong included; they simply exist on a wavelength that Force users can't sense, much like there are wavelengths the human eye can't see on the electromagnetic spectrum.
Also, I didn't ask who said it. I asked what you thought Vitiate would be doing that would be making "stars burn black," as it were.
KotOR II wants to say hi.
Seriously comparing the energy field of the Force to the size of the universe isn't just an assumption but is also fundamentally flawed given the Cosmic Force is what we're referencing here, not the Living Force.
EDIT: Given the effects that seem to happen to everything else, I imagine that's it draining the color and the heat of the star.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Yes and in not a single moment throughout KOTFE or KOTET is a massive act of destruction ever even referenced. Given the Eternal Empire spans said space, maybe you're starting to get the picture.All of his attempts were thwarted by the Outlander. His fleet stopped mid way through attempting and I've never even heard of such a statement before you started claiming it.
If you have an argument I'm not even remotely seeing one. Having Darth Sidious aiding you is so far above the fuel of millions of deaths that this comparison stops dead right there.
Not really understanding where there's a contradiction. The eternal empire expands scouring the territory within Wild Space that they conquer under the orders of their Emperor.
Considering you're the one who posted the quote of Hall saying exactly that ( the Eternal fleet scouring Wild Space )...
Except the death of millions isn't the only thing fueling the ritual as has been established.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Not as far as I'm aware. It's confirmed in Traitor that life indeed can't exist without the Force, the Vong included; they simply exist on a wavelength that Force users can't sense, much like there are wavelengths the human eye can't see on the electromagnetic spectrum.Also, I didn't ask who said it. I asked what you thought Vitiate would be doing that would be making "stars burn black," as it were.
^Ewww.
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
I heardthe author said that the force sort of banished the vong because of the atrocities they committed tot heir home world and stripped itself from the vong
Actually, I believe that was also from Traitor, or one of the subsequent books. Supposedly it was the Celestials.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Not really understanding where there's a contradiction. The eternal empire expands scouring the territory within Wild Space that they conquer under the orders of their Emperor.Considering you're the one who posted the quote of Hall saying exactly that ( the Eternal fleet scouring Wild Space )...
Except the death of millions isn't the only thing fueling the ritual as has been established.
Which is nobody's fault but your own.
The Eternal Empire rules Wild Space, if the Eternal Fleet actually went ravaging worlds then we wouldn't hear Koth praising Valkorion for stability, peace and order. Not to mention that not a single other character ever mentions it either. Ergo they never actually found a planet significant enough to fuel the ritual.
You're completely incapable of common sense, aren't you?
This all comes down to a simple question: What's the greater source of aid, millions(billions if you like) of deaths as fuel or Darth Sidious to carry half of the feat?
Darth Sidious without question. Now Darth Plagueis obviously has decades of growth after this, but Vitiate grows vastly via Ziost and becomes the canonically more powerful Valkorion.
There really isn't any comparison here.
Originally posted by AncientPower
The Eternal Empire rules Wild Space, if the Eternal Fleet actually went ravaging worlds then we wouldn't hear Koth praising Valkorion for stability, peace and order. Not to mention that not a single other character ever mentions it either. Ergo they never actually found a planet significant enough to fuel the ritual.You're completely incapable of common sense, aren't you?
The GE did the exact same thing and was praised for it by being said to have brought "Peace, order and stability" by many of its citizens, your logic is flawed. Considering Wild Space is essentially a cluster for backwater planets, you likely wouldn't.
Sorry I don't share your interpretation of events.
Originally posted by AncientPower
This all comes down to a simple question: What's the greater source of aid, millions(billions if you like) of deaths as fuel or Darth Sidious to carry half of the feat?Darth Sidious without question. Now Darth Plagueis obviously has decades of growth after this, but Vitiate grows vastly via Ziost and becomes the canonically more powerful Valkorion.
The comparison is flawed since millions of deaths isn't the only thing fueling the ritual.
Logically Valkorian would be far weaker considering he was weakened to sub pre-KotFE HoT level before he drained Ziost.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Why did you underline the word "communed?" Are you suggesting they asked the Force politely to unbalance itself?How?
What are you even talking about? What does the Jedi knowing about the Sith have to do with the feat?
They influenced the Force to tilt towards the Dark Side further. Since the Force is not a sentient being, it simply responds to an act of communication the way a Force-user wants it to.
Force-users can use the Force for both life-affirming and destructive ends. Life-affirming acts tilt the Force towards Light Side and destructive acts tilt the Force towards the Dark Side.
Jedi were not aware of this development. They were not even aware of presence of Sith. They only noticed the shift.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Not in the respect you've argued though, I.e fuel for his energy reserves. I remain unconvinced. 🙁
He's literally the driving power behind the ritual. 😂
You’ve learned that the Emperor is on Dromund Kaas, temporarily weakened by your efforts thwarting his plan for galactic annihilation. Striking at him now is your best chance to defeat him once and for all.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
The comparison is flawed since millions of deaths isn't the only thing fueling the ritual.Logically Valkorian would be far weaker considering he was weakened to sub pre-KotFE HoT level before he drained Ziost.
You've literally just invented this, all you've done is taken Hood's retroactive band aid placed over the gaping plothole that the Eternal Fleet created, and automatically decided he must have slaughtered civilizations in Wild Space. Which of course you'd understand is fundamentally flawed, if you actually had any idea what happens in KOTFE.
Here's a very simple fact: It is stated plain as day that Tol Braga would have completed the Dark Ritual by his own act of destruction on Corellia. All the other attempts had already been subverted by the Outlander prior to this event.
That is indisputable, and nothing you claim can subvert this statement.