Originally posted by UtrigitaI don't agree with this assessment. If QS can not really hurt Loki then QS will lose. Why we saw that QS is frail enough to be hurt and if he is stopped at all he can be hlbeaten pretty easy.
Well it's either going to end with Quicksilver beating Loki to submission or Quicksilver just being unable to damage Loki to any significant degree. Loki isn't catching Quicksilver, at least not based on what he has shown so far imo.
We also saw in this movie that QS can get winded and tired after the mansion scene. So he can be worn down
Originally posted by Newjak
Yes but once again what type of damage output do those punches have. Apocalypse was able to tank pretty easy and Loki is no slouch in the durability department.
Not sure about tanking it easily.
If he was easily tanking it he wouldn't have budged. Plus we don't know the damage that would have been done had QS continued.
Of course Loki is incredibly durable, but he has been put down, and QS clearly has some heavy output to dish out.
Originally posted by Newjak
I don't agree with this assessment. If QS can not really hurt Loki then QS will lose. Why we saw that QS is frail enough to be hurt and if he is stopped at all he can be hlbeaten pretty easy.We also saw in this movie that QS can get winded and tired after the mansion scene. So he can be worn down
How will Loki catch QS? What feats does he have to suggest that he can? And the mansion scene was extremely taxing to Quicksilver I agree, but Loki will be nowhere near as taxing imo.
Originally posted by Darth ThorPeople getting knocked around by weaker foes is not something new in comic movies. All we know is that PS hit Apoc with his best shots and Apoc was able to take them and come out unscathed.
Not sure about tanking it easily.If he was easily tanking it he wouldn't have budged. Plus we don't know the damage that would have been done had QS continued.
Of course Loki is incredibly durable, but he has been put down, and QS clearly has some heavy output to dish out.
Originally posted by SurturLoki's doesn't have to be as tough as Apoc. I'm just pointing out the only time we've seen QS be offensive he did jack to Apoc. So it call into question just what kind of damage output he has especially considering what Loki has taken in the past.
The only reason for you to say this would be if you for some reason think Loki has toughness that rivals Apocalypse.
Originally posted by UtrigitaI'm not sure Loki will be able to catch QS but I think me might be able to outlast him. After all it doesn't matter how many times QS hits Loki if they are doing no damage to him. All Loki has to wait for is QS to slip up once and it is over.
How will Loki catch QS? What feats does he have to suggest that he can? And the mansion scene was extremely taxing to Quicksilver I agree, but Loki will be nowhere near as taxing imo.
Originally posted by Newjak
People getting knocked around by weaker foes is not something new in comic movies. All we know is that PS hit Apoc with his best shots and Apoc was able to take them and come out unscathed.
I was arguing the idea that Apoc Easily Tanked those punches. That clearly wasn't the case. He was clearly affected by them. And I'm also questioning how long Apoc could have taken those punches for.
Originally posted by NewjakWe also saw in this movie that QS can get winded and tired after the mansion scene. So he can be worn down
Bear in mind though he had to over exert himself in the space of a couple of seconds. And he was already moving at super speed when he got to the Mansion which means he probably just ran there at high speeds.
That won't be the case in a 1 v 1 fight against someone who can't even perceive him (presumably).
Originally posted by Newjak
People getting knocked around by weaker foes is not something new in comic movies. All we know is that PS hit Apoc with his best shots and Apoc was able to take them and come out unscathed..Loki's doesn't have to be as tough as Apoc. I'm just pointing out the only time we've seen QS be offensive he did jack to Apoc. So it call into question just what kind of damage output he has especially considering what Loki has taken in the past.
I'm not sure Loki will be able to catch QS but I think me might be able to outlast him. After all it doesn't matter how many times QS hits Loki if they are doing no damage to him. All Loki has to wait for is QS to slip up once and it is over.
Not at all. QS takes his weapon while in Time Stop and kills him with it.
Or
It doesn't matter how many time QS hits him?? So you think he can tank a million super speed super strength punches to the face, or rag dolls him a billion time.
Killing him instantly
Originally posted by Newjak
I don't agree with this assessment. If QS can not really hurt Loki then QS will lose. Why we saw that QS is frail enough to be hurt and if he is stopped at all he can be hlbeaten pretty easy.We also saw in this movie that QS can get winded and tired after the mansion scene. So he can be worn down
He got winded because he had to move so fast to save all those people and he showed up after it already started exploding. He prolly had to exceed his limit for a short time. Even so, where is to say he could not speed again right after? If I am winded from a jog or run, I can still run more.
This was painfully obvious.