Quicksilver vs Loki

Started by Time-Immemorial7 pages
Originally posted by Newjak
And you honestly believe that is anywhere close to Thor or Hulk or even an Ironman repulsive blast? And how much force would that generate exactly running and down a building. I mean as fast QS was he still very obviously had limits as the blast was still going on around him.

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Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
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Originally posted by Newjak
I don't agree with this assessment. If QS can not really hurt Loki then QS will lose. Why we saw that QS is frail enough to be hurt and if he is stopped at all he can be hlbeaten pretty easy.

We also saw in this movie that QS can get winded and tired after the mansion scene. So he can be worn down

So why was Apoc screaming in pain?

Originally posted by Newjak
Yes but once again what type of damage output do those punches have.

You literally can't be serious. Or you are just flat out trolling here.. Finger flicks could send grown men flying and he had Apoc screaming in pain. Once again you trying to cover your ass in the Thor department by downplaying QS when fighting with Loki.

I can't believe this fight is still active. Asgardians are loved in the movie section. Some of you all need to visit the comic vs forum more often.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
So why was Apoc screaming in pain?
Apocalypse literally was looking at QS focusing to catch his foot. He then casually walked over after not taking any damage and broke his leg.

So once again Apocalypse took QS' best without sustaining any damage. So once again prove that QS has the damage output to take down Loki. I mean if the best is knocking a human around in the first film and A pic tanking them no problem you have a wide gap of power there and Loki is durable as hell

This was after he was screaming in pain.

QS goes and gets a nuke and shoves it down his throat.

Originally posted by Newjak
Apocalypse literally was looking at QS focusing to catch his foot. He then casually walked over after not taking any damage and broke his leg.

So once again Apocalypse took QS' best without sustaining any damage. So once again prove that QS has the damage output to take down Loki. I mean if the best is knocking a human around in the first film and A pic tanking them no problem you have a wide gap of power there and Loki is durable as hell

Dude, if QS decides to body slam Loki face first into the ground at Mach 200, he's not going to get back up.

Just to get some background on how fast mach 200 is, the projectile fired from a rail gun is around mach 5-10 tops. That's over 20x the speed of a railgun projectile face first into the pavement.

If you think Hulk's "puny god" move was bad. This is like many times orders of magntitude worse.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
This was after he was screaming in pain.

QS goes and gets a nuke and shoves it down his throat.

Apocalypse didn't make a sound in the entire scene and he very calm after being hit by. QS uses his power to grab his foot

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Dude, if QS decides to body slam Loki face first into the ground at Mach 200, he's not going to get back up.

Just to get some background on how fast mach 200 is, the projectile fired from a rail gun is around mach 5-10 tops. That's over 20x the speed of a railgun projectile face first into the pavement.

If you think Hulk's "puny god" move was bad. This is like many times orders of magntitude worse.

First off how did you even get the number? Secondly we have already seen the damage output for QS and it wasn't even enough to hurt Apocalypse. Plus Loki has already taken explosions to the face without injury.

Originally posted by Newjak
First off how did you even get the number? Secondly we have already seen the damage output for QS and it wasn't even enough to hurt Apocalypse. Plus Loki has already taken explosions to the face without injury.

Well, explosions go at around 1800-3000 m/s (around mach 5-9).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detonation_velocity

I feel like you need to be 20x-30x faster than something to be watching it at slo mo and still be able to play with things like debris and messing around, etc.

Of course, feel free to correct me or tell me what you think the correct number is, as naturally, extrapolation is involved here.

We see what the damage output of his punch, w/c we can't quantify as we don't know what Apoc's actual durability is or what its limitations are.

Are you saying he can't carry something and slam it into the ground? Are you saying all he can do is punch?

He was screaming, QS was just moving so fast the sound never generated.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Well, explosions go at around 1800-3000 m/s (around mach 5-9).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detonation_velocity

I feel like you need to be 20x-30x faster than something to be watching it at slo mo and still be able to play with things like debris and messing around, etc.

Of course, feel free to correct me or tell me what you think the correct number is, as naturally, extrapolation is involved here.

We see what the damage output of his punch, w/c we can't quantify as we don't know what Apoc's actual durability is or what its limitations are.

Are you saying he can't carry something and slam it into the ground? Are you saying all he can do is punch?

When we are talking about large numbers I would think in some cases even going twice as fast still allow you to view somethings in slow motion. Remember there was a point where he was just tossing people outside windows trying to keep ahead of the blast.

Also if that really was his max speed or the speed he was going at everybody he touched would have disintegrated or basically become a pile of goo. And he can do more than punch but considering he is relying on acceleration to create the force of his attacks it won't matter if the punches someone or runs them into a well it will still be the same force.

Originally posted by KingD19
He was screaming, QS was just moving so fast the sound never generated.

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Originally posted by KingD19
He was screaming, QS was just moving so fast the sound never generated.
He was in so much pain he couldn't even focus on a speeding target enough to snare him... oh wait he did just that. His mouth was open hat doesn't automatically indicate pain nor does it indicate screaming in pain. After all Apocalypse showed no damage seconds after stopping QS

^Ignorant post.

Loki has no where the power of Apoc.

Mach 200 slams

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Originally posted by Newjak
When we are talking about large numbers I would think in some cases even going twice as fast still allow you to view somethings in slow motion. Remember there was a point where he was just tossing people outside windows trying to keep ahead of the blast.

Also if that really was his max speed or the speed he was going at everybody he touched would have disintegrated or basically become a pile of goo. And he can do more than punch but considering he is relying on acceleration to create the force of his attacks it won't matter if the punches someone or runs them into a well it will still be the same force.

Dude, are you kidding me? He was able to do like 20 different things and covered the distance of the mansion zipping around many times and even had time to mess around before the explosion even managed to cross a few feet.

I mean, look at this scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_pmlwQL4pQ

Exactly at 1:05.

He crossed to Cyclops' position in an instant while the explosion was barely even moving. 20-30 is a SMALL estimate. I would go hundreds of times faster if I was being realistic.

2x is a ridiculous lowball number and you know it.

And yes, if we followed physics, everyone would liquify on contact against Quicksilver. But you can't deny how fast he moves if he wants to and if push comes to shove (if his punches aren't hurting Loki), he can just lift Loki and body slam him.

He also showed no injury seconds after Mystique sliced his jugular wide open. What's your point?

And he had to activate a power to even see QS.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Dude, are you kidding me? He was able to do like 20 different things and covered the distance of the mansion zipping around many times and even had time to mess around before the explosion even managed to cross a few feet.

I mean, look at this scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_pmlwQL4pQ

Exactly at 1:05.

He crossed to Cyclops' position in an instant while the explosion was barely even moving. 20-30 is a SMALL estimate. I would go hundreds of times faster if I was being realistic.

2x is a ridiculous lowball number and you know it.

like I said at the very end he seemed to be struggling to keep past the explosion even jumping out the window at the end.

Also do you think someone with half the speed of light wouldn't appear super slow to someone with light speed speed