Full Powered Omega Iceman vs The Flashes

Started by DarkSaint8510 pages
Originally posted by TheHulk
I looked up everywhere for something like this! But is it truly accurate though? I refuse to believe hours of searching was wasted when the answer could be found just like that 😘

Your Google-fu is weak, grasshopper.

But yeah, the source for that is the rules thread:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t461496.html

About...halfway down? Just search for 'thought'.

Originally posted by spetznaz
The link below shows why the tactic you selected for Bobby wouldn't work against some of the faster Flashes. The faster Flashes like Wally and Barry are simply too fast, and that is even ignoring some of their feats like 'faster than instantaneous transmission from across the galaxy' stuff.

Anywhere, here is a link where he saves an entire city by transporting over 500,000 people, carrying them in twos and threes, to a safe location 35 miles away (meaning each trip he goes out 35 miles and goes back 35 miles to the city, searches for people, grabs 2 or 3, and then runs 35 miles away and returns to do the same over and over until 500,000 people are evacuated). Oh, and he does this within 0.00001 microseconds. While a nuclear weapon is exploding.

Full potential Ice Man is simply nowhere near the better Flashes. The Speed Force is a greater deus ex machina than anything Ice Man could ever HOPE to bring to the equation.

Here's the link for those who don't read DC, and having a Flash like Wally or Barry vs Ice Man probably indicates lack of reading DC. It would be like me asking if a full potential Nightwing could take down, say, Loki. Or maybe even if Alfred, that's Bruce Wayne's butler for those who only read Marvel, can use a walking cane to cripple the Hulk.

Maybe not impossible, but so improbable as to be patently ludicrous, and only possible in the realm of PIS of the highest magnitude.

Here's the link:

http://4thletter.net/2006/09/flash-fact-jla-89/

Way to be a condescending ass

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
Way to be a condescending ass
Woah now, it's still a matter of opinion 🙂 Yeah there is some cockiness in his tone, but still.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Your Google-fu is weak, grasshopper.

But yeah, the source for that is the rules thread:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t461496.html

About...halfway down? Just search for 'thought'.

Man...sometimes i forget you read a lot of that stuff from the rule thread. Literally it was the second or third time i had a debate with you that you talked about the rules. I forgot what was it about though. But i kinda remember something like that happened between us 😂

Whats with these prefixed terms "full powered omega" ? He's always at full power and omega is a classification.

Originally posted by TheHulk
Man...sometimes i forget you read a lot of that stuff from the rule thread. Literally it was the second or third time i had a debate with you that you talked about the rules. I forgot what was it about though. But i kinda remember something like that happened between us 😂

Lol. This is the only forum I belong to, so I thought it best to at least familiarise myself in case I stepped on anyone's toes.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
This is the only forum I belong to

Because you got banned from others haw-som

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Yea i despise forum characters. On kmc flash is unbeatable in comics he gets dropped my mooks. Meh

Why is it you don't have any problem with him getting dropped by mooks? You don't see problems when a character can move at FTL speeds and one of his villains throws boomerangs?

What I'm saying is the heroes are written to fail, and it's rarely for a good reason so it's not like it's something one should find preferable.

Originally posted by TheHulk
Honestly, what is the speed of thought? isn't it unquantifiable? 😂

According to comics themselves, it cannot be quantified indeed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDsWSugN7cA

Iceman wins

But that didn't really explain at all why Flash loses.

Well, when a talking gorilla can eat you... 😛

Originally posted by hutchy1345
Yes I've seen that feat before but my question is can they actually kill him, I don't think punching can hurt a gas
No, physically punching Bobby wouldn't kill him. However, if Flash were to steal Bobby's speed/kinetic energy, it *should* render him inert long enough to constitute a forum win.

Originally posted by Surtur
Why is it you don't have any problem with him getting dropped by mooks? You don't see problems when a character can move at FTL speeds and one of his villains throws boomerangs?

What I'm saying is the heroes are written to fail, and it's rarely for a good reason so it's not like it's something one should find preferable.

What are u asking me? Your sentence structure is off.

Re: Full Powered Omega Iceman vs The Flashes

Originally posted by TheHulk
Iceman at his full potential vs The Flashes separately.

1.Barry Allen

2.Wally West

3.Bart Allen

4. New 52 Flash

5. New 52 Kid Flash

All Pre-52 except mentioned versions. How many out of the these 5 can Bobby beat. No prep and no BFR.

Bobby beats them all.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
What are u asking me? Your sentence structure is off.

I asked why it doesn't bother you when mooks beat up The Flash? Since you despise forum characters, and then you spoke about Flash getting taken out by mooks.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
What are u asking me? Your sentence structure is off.

He's just saying that flash is inconsistent because his villains throw boomerangs or is a talking gorilla and he doesn't own them instantly, yet he would own an infinitely more powerful iceman
#comiclogic

I'm just saying they give him this power of super speed and then to fight him they give him villains where he would have to pretty much fail on purpose in order for them to be taken seriously.

The Flash while very broken, was also set up to fail.

They know nothing of what Bobby can do with just basic knowledge. Not only can they not pinpoint his consciousness, but he can make clones of himself to fight AND remain in the air or inside their bodies and wait for the moment to strike. Brain freeze is both viable and probably his quickest attack.

Originally posted by hutchy1345
He's just saying that flash is inconsistent because his villains throw boomerangs or is a talking gorilla and he doesn't own them instantly, yet he would own an infinitely more powerful iceman
#comiclogic
Comic logic is also why these touted "Omega-level Mutants" are rarely ever portrayed as the nigh-omnipotent Gods people like to believe they are. Point: every character has highs and lows. That is just how comics work.

Using Flash's rogue gallery as a means to downplay him, however, is laughably faulty.

Originally posted by jrodslam
They know nothing of what Bobby can do with just basic knowledge. Not only can they not pinpoint his consciousness, but he can make clones of himself to fight AND remain in the air or inside their bodies and wait for the moment to strike. Brain freeze is both viable and probably his quickest attack.
Flash can calculate infinite possibilities in the space of a single page. He can steal speed/kinetic energy. He can perceive/react on an attosecond-by-attosecond basis. Etc. Etc.

So if we're talking high-end, Bobby would never even get a chance to use any of his abilities here. Flash's speed alone makes Bobby an eternal statue by comparison.