Raging Hulk (Ultron) vs Thor & Loki (Avengers)

Started by carver98 pages
Originally posted by FrothByte
You mean when he paused after he hit BW because he hit the wall? Yeah, that pause wasn't hesitation. That was due to him hitting the wall.Still waiting for your proof that he hesitated.

Even after that. If it was the same Hulk that fought Ironman, she would have died. That same Hulk would've been all over Thor. Two different types of Hulks. Overall, Thor doesn't stand a chance here.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yep Avengers Assemble.

Thor the only one powerful enough to battle Hyperion (even defeat him), whereas Hulk gets stomped by him every single time.

Add to that the episode where Thor hits Hulk so hard he gets amnesia Lol

Nah most those fights long after the Stan Lee classic showed Thor as being superior.

There was the fight where they match each other IN STRENGTH for hours and hours. There was the fight where Thor easily BRF's Hulk all over the place, KO's him with a Lightning blast, then only at the end after BFR'ing Hulk back to Earth does Hulk get the jump on Thor.

Then there's the fight where Hulk beats Thor because Hulk first basically begs Thor to fight him without Mjolnir because he knows he can't beat Mjolnir wielding Thor Lol.

There's the one where Thor BFR's Hulk into space.

There's loads of them all showing Thor is overall far superior.

Not to mention everyone knows if it really came down to it a Godblast would kill him. (Even Indestructible Hulk).

Pretty sure the one shotting him with his own hammer was a fazy memory Banner had.

Nah, they wouldn't even let Iron Man win against Cap, even though IM was clearly superior in every way.

If they have Hulk beat Thor it will only be in a pure physical fight, just like in Avengers. That's the only way Hulk will ever beat Thor.

But guaranteed they will clearly show in some way that it's Thor whose more powerful.

Believe you me, Hulk fanboys should be scared.

WTF...hulk almost killed Thor in 3 hits. Hulk ALWAYS look superior to Thor. I can post a fight where Hulk literally beats on Thor until he is black and blue in the face.

Not relevant to this fight Carv.

Originally posted by carver9
WTF...hulk almost killed Thor in 3 hits. Hulk ALWAYS look superior to Thor. I can post a fight where Hulk literally beats on Thor until he is black and blue in the face.

Post away.. Are you denying what happened in the fights I've mentioned?

Thor and Loki win.

Shut up Carver

Originally posted by carver9
Rewatched the scene and you are probably right. I thought he used the 400% in that one attack. Also, what does a power increase like that does for Ironman? The only thing we have proof of it doing is amping his repulsor rays. Also, yes, Ironman stalemated him.

https://youtu.be/Y1g-B8BJzwc

That is obviously a stalemate and he did extremely well against Thor. I feel 100% sure this same Ironman would've got wrecked by Hulk.

Considering he was struggling to lift a car on less than 20% power in IM1 it seems pretty obvious that his power % increasing or decreasing effects his strength levels.

Again Cap interrupting doesn't make it a stalemate. Thor was crushing IM's gloves. IM did no visible damage to Thor. Thor then brushed IM aside when going for Cap.

Dunno about Hulk wrecking this IM more so than Thor was doing, given this IM was 4 times more powerful than regular IM, but in a more compact and agile suit. I.e. He could fly circles around Hulk while his punches and blasts are 4times as powerful than Peak IM in his standard suit.

Also bear in mind Thor couldn't use his Lightning again as it may have powered IM up even more. He can blast Hulk with Lightning as much as he wants.

Originally posted by carver9
Even after that. If it was the same Hulk that fought Ironman, she would have died. That same Hulk would've been all over Thor. Two different types of Hulks. Overall, Thor doesn't stand a chance here.

You have any lroof that these Hulk's were different?

Lol. Different Hulks now? C,mon guys. This is retarded. Thor has the feats and the fights. Argue all you want, but Thors offensive power is way past anything Hulk has been shown to take.And vice versa on defense.

If it is 2 different Hulks, then if anything this incarnation of Hulk is weaker given he was KO'd by IM.

Originally posted by FrothByte
You have any lroof that these Hulk's were different?

I just told you why the both Hulks were different rage wise. Black Widow would've been cream on the ground if it was the same Hulk Ironman fought.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Considering he was struggling to lift a car on less than 20% power in IM1 it seems pretty obvious that his power % increasing or decreasing effects his strength levels.

Again Cap interrupting doesn't make it a stalemate. Thor was crushing IM's gloves. IM did no visible damage to Thor. Thor then brushed IM aside when going for Cap.

Dunno about Hulk wrecking this IM more so than Thor was doing, given this IM was 4 times more powerful than regular IM, but in a more compact and agile suit. I.e. He could fly circles around Hulk while his punches and blasts are 4times as powerful than Peak IM in his standard suit.

Also bear in mind Thor couldn't use his Lightning again as it may have powered IM up even more. He can blast Hulk with Lightning as much as he wants.

What's Ironman best strength ft at full power?

It was a stalemate. Thor damaging Ironman arms doesn't change this. Hulk punched blood from Thor whereas Thor did NOTHING to Hulk, do you now agree that Hulk curbed hi? Please be consistent.

Lol...if Ironman powering up could've helped him fight Hulk, he would've went that route in the latest Avengers moving instead of creating a Hulk buster armor. Ironman knew he did not stand a chance in his regular armor which is the reason be created something far more powerful with the aid of healing his armor wounds.

Name the most powerful being Thor lightning has taken out.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
If it is 2 different Hulks, then if anything this incarnation of Hulk is weaker given he was KO'd by IM.

Was that a regular Ironman? Also, context should be everyone's friend on this site.

Originally posted by carver9
I just told you why the both Hulks were different rage wise. Black Widow would've been cream on the ground if it was the same Hulk Ironman fought.

That's not proof. You merely stated your theory. I'm asking for actual proof that they were different.

Originally posted by carver9
What's Ironman best strength ft at full power?

It was a stalemate. Thor damaging Ironman arms doesn't change this. Hulk punched blood from Thor whereas Thor did NOTHING to Hulk, do you now agree that Hulk curbed hi? Please be consistent.

Lol...if Ironman powering up could've helped him fight Hulk, he would've went that route in the latest Avengers moving instead of creating a Hulk buster armor. Ironman knew he did not stand a chance in his regular armor which is the reason be created something far more powerful with the aid of healing his armor wounds.

Name the most powerful being Thor lightning has taken out.

So IM getting damaged armor is a stalemate yet Thor getting a slightly bloody nose is a win for Hulk? Why the double standard?

Originally posted by FrothByte
That's not proof. You merely stated your theory. I'm asking for actual proof that they were different.

The only thing Loki weapon did was make Hulk tranform in Avengers 1. Avengers 2 Hulk was possessed to be in a rage state. That's the difference.

Originally posted by FrothByte
So IM getting damaged armor is a stalemate yet Thor getting a slightly bloody nose is a win for Hulk? Why the double standard?

Thor dented his arm. Ultron dented his armor. The shield carrier damaged his armor. Hell, Cap has damaged Tony armor. Damaging the armor isn't an auto win. Beating Tony is beating Tony. Thor didn't do that. So with that said, damaging Tony armor is an auto advantage to you so I guess Hulk busting Thor nose open is an auto advantage as well. Let's not pick and choose.

Originally posted by carver9
The only thing Loki weapon did was make Hulk tranform in Avengers 1. Avengers 2 Hulk was possessed to be in a rage state. That's the difference.

No, what Loki's weapon did was make the Hulk so mad that he lost control of his anger and tried to kill his allies.

Originally posted by carver9
The only thing Loki weapon did was make Hulk tranform in Avengers 1. Avengers 2 Hulk was possessed to be in a rage state. That's the difference.

Avengers 1: Hulk was so out of control he was attacking his teammates.
Avengers 2: Hulk was so out of control he was attacking his teammates.

Exact. Same. Hulk.

Originally posted by carver9
Thor dented his arm. Ultron dented his armor. The shield carrier damaged his armor. Hell, Cap has damaged Tony armor. Damaging the armor isn't an auto win. Beating Tony is beating Tony. Thor didn't do that. So with that said, damaging Tony armor is an auto advantage to you so I guess Hulk busting Thor nose open is an auto advantage as well. Let's not pick and choose.

Thor crushed IM's armor when IM tried to punch him. Thor dented IM's helm when IM tried to head butt him. Hulk bloodied Thor's nose by hitting him with a cheap shot when Thor wasn't defending himself and trying to talk to Hulk. I hope you're smart enough to realize the difference between these 2 scenarios.

Hulk.