Orlando Terrorist Attack

Liberals think there is no real evil in the world but then try and figure out the why.

Circular logic.

Originally posted by Lestov16
I never said that in this thread

That's what Omar Fateen believed of the victims he killed

No because you accused me of being worse then the killer, thats why you don't have the right to an opinion. You really should leave the forum, for good.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Is this directed at me? Okay, we'll ignore topics of homophobia and radical Islam if you want. No problem with me. I'm just trying to figure out why this happened and the motivation of the attacker.

Okay is this like a thing with you where someone says something and you just completely misinterpret it?

I just look at what the person you are quoting said and I then look at your response and I marvel at it.

Again, never said that in this thread

Anyways, Omar's ex-wife said he was a domestic abuser:http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/14/us/sitora-yusufiy-omar-mateen-orlando-shooting.html?_r=0

Doesn't matter, you said I was worse the the killer, you need to leave the forum.

Muslim men beating their wives is not news.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Again, never said that in this thread

Anyways, Omar's ex-wife said he was a domestic abuser:http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/14/us/sitora-yusufiy-omar-mateen-orlando-shooting.html?_r=0

Are you shocked he treats females badly? That is part of the package deal. Hatred of gays, treating women like shit, etc.

Liberals think there is no real evil in the world but then try and figure out the why people do bad things.

I recall Lestov saying he stole things from stores before. I guess that makes him evil as well.

I don't get the question of "why". Don't we know why? I mean this isn't hard to figure out. He was a religious fanatic. That is why. It all comes back to his religion.

Islam ideology turns good people bad. And its not a religion, its a conquest mentality/ideology with religious aspects.

Originally posted by Surtur
Are you shocked he treats females badly? That is part of the package deal. Hatred of gays, treating women like shit, etc.

Really want to find out about his childhood. Whether he is inherently a scumbag or if it's the result of traumatic circumstances.

I recall Lestov saying his father was Muslim, so thats why he does not want to blame Islam here. But he has to blame someone, so its homophobia of coarse.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Really want to find out about his childhood. Whether he is inherently a scumbag or if it's the result of traumatic circumstances.

Don't you think being raised in a religion like this would count as tragic circumstances? Again I am not saying it is every single person who follows the religion is like this, but some people are extremists and if he was raised in that environment then well of course he grew up the same way.

I also want to point out even the more "civilized" people of this religion still hate gays, just not to the point of murder. 50% of British muslims think gay people should be in jail.

I think this would all go back to religion, but it doesn't mean every muslim is like this.

Its interesting how Lestov acts like many parts of Islam have reformed, when they have not. But then blames Christians and Catholics for this tragedy when those religions actually did. Keep in mind his dad is Muslim.

Here is the thing, you have your extremists and that is one sect. These are the terrorists, these are the people blowing themselves up for their God, etc.

You also have Muslims that utterly denounce this shit and any of this kind of belief.

But you also have the middle ground. They believe in these things, like disliking gays, but they aren't extremists.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Really want to find out about his childhood. Whether he is inherently a scumbag or if it's the result of traumatic circumstances.

That's such a liberal mindset. You're wanting to find out if there is personal responsibility or societal factors? Come on, really?

Also, nobody has asked this but I am really wondering how 1 guy could do this? It was a club with hundreds of people and I know there's panic and confusion, but how does 1 guy meet no resistance? How does 1 guy at one point hold 20+ people hostage? It's a legitimate question because I don't understand how that can happen.

Lestov is a liberal, gay, african american, his dad is Muslim, he is never going to blame Islam and he's going to blame gun, christians, conservatives, capitalists like he already did. Why do we have to hand hold him through a process which he will never accept. This is lunacy trying to talk to this soulless person who has nothing but hate for everyone else different then him.

@ ms warehouse

I'm thinking because an AK fires 700 rounds per minute. I mean if the killer sets himself up near the exit/ entry way I don't see how they could get to him without being shot.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Because this was a religious attack on gays. You know, like the Christians who don't want gays to get married and protest the national same sex marriage bill, the one Trump wants to get rid of.

Comparing a piece of paper to a mass murderer,😂

Trump has never said he didn't want gays to be married, he actually said the exact opposite, liar.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/04/polit...avis/index.html

Originally posted by Surtur
I don't get the question of "why". Don't we know why? I mean this isn't hard to figure out. He was a religious fanatic. That is why. It all comes back to his religion.

So we are blaming Abrahamic religion now? Is religious homophobia a factor or not? I'm getting confused here. Nib says it has nothing to do with religion whereas you say it has everything to do with religion. Which is it?

Generalizing😂