http://time.com/4365507/orlando-shooting-isis-claims-responsibility-terror/
So this is officially an ISIS Attack. Political backlash is going to be immense. Bernie is done. His one weakness is foreign policy and national security, and in the wake of this, that weakness will be exposed big time. I see Trump and Hillary advocating war. Of course they have weak spots there too as Hillary supported Iraq and Libya, which led to ISIS's rise in the first plsce, and Trump has no foreign policy experience, and his business dealings have never prepared him for such a dangerous, volatile, and geopolitically sensitive threat. Things are going to be very interesting...
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Nah, I think he's here to stay.After all, him not being able to practice what he preaches is part of who he is.
Originally posted by Lestov16
I'll leave you guys in peace so you can discuss which missile you think Trump should launch at those dirty Muslims and their families. You accuse me of playing politics but clearly you see this as an excuse to engineer the Islamophobic hate train. As stated, you don't really care about the attack or it's causes, just about how much you can mold it to fit your Islamophobic narrative.
I thought he was leaving.
Originally posted by Lestov16
http://time.com/4365507/orlando-shooting-isis-claims-responsibility-terror/So this is officially an ISIS Attack. Political backlash is going to be immense. Bernie is done. His one weakness is foreign policy and national security, and in the wake of this, that weakness will be exposed big time. I see Trump and Hillary advocating war. Of course they have weak spots there too as Hillary supported Iraq and Libya, which led to ISIS's rise in the first plsce, and Trump has no foreign policy experience, and his business dealings have never prepared him for such a dangerous, volatile, and geopolitically sensitive threat. Things are going to be very interesting...
Look at you trying to dig your way out of this past 5 pages and make it more political then you already did before.
My stance has not changed. Religious homophobia caused this, not all religions are entirely peaceful, and not all Muslims are evil. You act as though I stated Islam had nothing to do with this when I've repeatedly stated that Islam religious dogma was the main cause. Don't try to ignore that you are being Islamophobic towards all Islamic sects or that homophobia is considered acceptable by many around the world of many different religions. You are being bigoted, myopic, and hypocritical.
And LOL. It was only the fact that he was islamic, rather than homophobic, that makes you call him terrorist. I bet if he was a homophobic white guy shooting up a gay nightclub you would just call him a mass shooter
Originally posted by Lestov16
My stance has not changed. Religious homophobia caused this, not all religions are entirely peaceful, and not all Muslims are evil. You act as though I stated Islam had nothing to do with this when I've repeatedly stated that Islam religious dogma was the main cause. Don't try to ignore that you are being Islamophobic towards all Islamic sects or that homophobia is considered acceptable by many around the world of many different religions. You are being bigoted, myopic, and hypocritical.
😂
Clown
Prove I said all Muslims are terrorists. Not all muslims are terrorist, but all radical muslims are jihadis.
Islam has never accepted Homosexuality.
Other people here have said you are being bigoted, prejudicial, hypocritical and ignorant.
Nice try in re direct but you failed again.
You said all Muslims are radicals.
And what do you mean Islam never accepted homosexuality? If you mean scripture wise then no, the scripture was never rewritten to accept homosexuality, but neither was Christianity's scripture. If you mean accepted by the people who practice the ideology, then no, that's not true. There are some gay Muslims. The majority are homophobic though, but that's due to subjective interpretation. Just as the majority of Christians accept gays, due to subjective interpretation. That's all any religion is. The interpretation of the person who follows it.
If your argument is that it is easier to get one to commit evil using Islam than any other religion, that's not true, as all Abrahamic religions support barbaric practices in their scriptures. It's just that Christians, due to being an older religion, outgrew their barbarism before Islam did.
Originally posted by Lestov16
My stance has not changed. Religious homophobia caused this, not all religions are entirely peaceful, and not all Muslims are evil. You act as though I stated Islam had nothing to do with this when I've repeatedly stated that Islam religious dogma was the main cause. Don't try to ignore that you are being Islamophobic towards all Islamic sects or that homophobia is considered acceptable by many around the world of many different religions. You are being bigoted, myopic, and hypocritical.And LOL. It was only the fact that he was islamic, rather than homophobic, that makes you call him terrorist. I bet if he was a homophobic white guy shooting up a gay nightclub you would just call him a mass shooter
So its about white guys now😂
Who was the terrorist, was he a white christian capitalist? What's actually happened was that it was a terrorist attack. Claiming it was homophobic based on location requires proof.
Learn a lesson from Time.
http://time.com/4136457/terrorism-definition/
Originally posted by Lestov16
LOL at all of you. Deriding an Islamic terrorist for his homophobic attack and ignoring the Christian homophobia that exists everyday. What's that the Bible said about looking at the speck in your neighbors eye?I'll leave you guys in peace so you can discuss which missile you think Trump should launch at those dirty Muslims and their families.
Which white christian capitalists are going around killing homosexuals?
If you are leaving us in peace, when when is it happening and was it in peace?
Originally posted by Nibedicus👆
Uhhh, yeah. At NO POINT during your primary post (w/c is the point of contention) nor in the replies that followed was the concept of unique individual interpretation ever been brought up. Had it been, we wouldn't be having this debate.This is your exact post:
That is direct causality, not "individual interpretation". Maybe you don't know how to communicate your point properly or maybe you're just backpedalling. /shrug
Regardless, I (and every Catholic/Christian here) would like an apology either way.
Excuse me? Ppl are allowed to believe what they want. Just not act upon it that would deny others their rights or cause harm to others. And God isn't "homophobic", that implies a fear or hatred of homosexuals. Homosexuality isn't condemned. Homosexuals are welcomed in the Church. It's just the act of homosexual sex and marriage isn't allowed in the religion (but neither is masturbation and premarital sex). But guess what? One can always LEAVE the religion to practice one's beliefs/lifestyle (OMG, what a novel concept!). Or stay and feel guilty and do penance, but that's how it is and we've accepted that as Catholics.
Religion is not compulsory, after all, unless you live in certain countries (and that is actually something we can criticize about the COUNTRY not the religion).
Sounds like he's really on this bible thing. Lets not go back to the religion vs. Political ideology debate lestov, because you will lose that one.
Originally posted by Lestov16
Oh then. So what exactly are we fighting over? We all agree that any religion is okay as long as it's not used to victimize others right? That's the point I'm trying to make.
We are fighting all because of you. This all started with you and it will end with you when you leave the thread.
Get your head out of your ass like someone previously said.
Originally posted by Lestov16
I'll leave you guys in peace so you can discuss which missile you think Trump should launch at those dirty Muslims and their families. You accuse me of playing politics but clearly you see this as an excuse to engineer the Islamophobic hate train. As stated, you don't really care about the attack or it's causes, just about how much you can mold it to fit your Islamophobic narrative.
Mean what you say, and stick to what you say.