Originally posted by SSJGGogetaBack in the day, the IG had no such restrictions. The one universe limitation only came about within the last few years. That's why I keep making it a point to say 'classic' IG -- the 'classic' IG is also the iteration specified in the OP. 👆
My point is that the IG is clearly not multiversal, or omniversal, if it only operates in one universe.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta👆
Anyway, from what you're posting Galan, I would definitely give the fight to Thanos at this point.
I have yet to see any Zeno supporters(especially carver) make a cohesive argument on his behalf. Things might change down the road, but from what I can tell right now, there's really no way the IG doesn't stomp. /shrug
Originally posted by Galan007
Back in the day, the IG had no such restrictions. The one universe limitation only came about within the last few years. That's why I keep making it a point to say 'classic' IG -- the 'classic' IG is also the iteration specified in the OP. 👆👆
I have yet to see any Zeno supporters(especially carver) make a cohesive argument on his behalf. Things might change down the road, but from what I can tell right now, there's really no way the IG doesn't stomp. /shrug
Well I know that the Marvel abstract power tier was all kinds of jumbled back then, but I'm personally not a huge Marvel fan, and haven't read enough of it in the first place to give a detailed analysis on the fight.
However, all we've really seen from Zeno so far, is destroying a timeline. That's honestly not that impressive. What is really impressive is that people like Beerus, Whiss, Vados, Champa, etc, are all more feeble compared to him, than Goku is compared to Beerus. Even though we've only seen Beerus at around 1% so far, he's still universal level, casually. Imagine what Zeno is really capable of, given that he can destroy anything, or anyone all at once, within all of DBS, with absolutely no effort.
I guess we'll have to wait and see how powerful he really is, lol. We haven't even seen Beerus get remotely serious, and we're like 70 episodes in.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Doom is not "far above" Multiversal, rofl.
Yeah, he is.
The Beyonders waged a war with Living Tribunal across all realities of the Marvel omniverse at the same time, and beat him easily.
Doom absorbed their power using their own weapon, Molecule Man, against them. They essentially ate the Beyonder's, and Doom accessed that power.
The IG couldn't beat Doom, but it could give him pause, which is more than a gang of Celestials or Eternity and Infinity could do.
And you're completely aware of the wildly inconsistent power levels of the Beyonders, along with the fact that it was Owen and Owen alone who possesses the power of the Beyonder Race, and he just gave Doom as much of the power as he seemed fit, correct?
The IG did not give Doom pause, at all. He stomped it. Easily. Far above Multiversal is Current Owen or PR Beyonder. Not God Doom.
Not really that inconsistant. The only showing remotely inconsistant was one being transmutated into a tree. Starbrand self destructed, which could be well within a Starbrands ambigious power.
And what comic book power "don't" have low showings. May as well bring up LT failing to kill Protege or Korvak.
On average, they killed the Marvel Omniverse, and every top abstract in it.
And Doom tapped that same power. There's no reason to believe Owen "limited" Doom, up until he decided Reed would be better suited for the power.
And T'challa definately slowed Doom down. Doom groaned in pain, and it took longer than it did to kill, say, Scott/Phoenix.
Pretty sure the detonation of some hundred thousand universes was enough to kill them as well. Thor, Hyperion, and Starbrand were going toe to toe with them. That's inconsistent.
The difference is that they have many lows as highs. It's not like they ****ed up here and there, after their slaughtering of the LT, all of their feats were low.
And there's no reason to believe that Owen gave Doom the absolute entirety of his power. Hell, the fact you believe the IG slowed Doom down/challenged him directly disproves that notion. You're essentially telling me:
Owen ~ God Doom >>>>>>>>>> 3 Beyonders > LT > IG, yet also saying the IG gave Doom pause. Doesn't make much sense to me, tbh. /shrug
When Doom got serious, he crushed T'challa. Because Doom is Doom, and the IG is something lesser.
Thanos destroys him.
Originally posted by Galan007
I have yet to see any Zeno supporters(especially carver) make a cohesive argument on his behalf. Things might change down the road, but from what I can tell right now, there's really no way the IG doesn't stomp. /shrug
The DBZ wank is real, nothing new.
Originally posted by Classic NES
Thanos destroys him.The DBZ wank is real, nothing new.
Oh, absolutely. They were insane beforr Super, and now that they have a few actual galaxy/universal feats under their belt they're unbearable.
Newsflash, most comic book characters have the odd over the top feat. Genis-Vell killed the multiverse. By fanboy logic, Genis > all.
Originally posted by cdtm
Oh, absolutely. They were insane beforr Super, and now that they have a few actual galaxy/universal feats under their belt they're unbearable.Newsflash, most comic book characters have the odd over the top feat. Genis-Vell killed the multiverse. By fanboy logic, Genis > all.
DBZtards don't believe in outliers unless it's low ends which they dismiss as a "gag". cancerous fandom for sure.