Darth Vader vs Thor

Started by quanchi1128 pages

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
not sure if Vader can force choke Thor ...

I need to see evidence

Thor oneshots him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor oneshots him.

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Vader wins this. It isn't a matter of power output or raw strength - it's a matter of the first strike and range advantages of precognition + telekinesis.

Before Thor can do anything - lift his hammer, move towards Vader, etc. - Vader, who can see and react to things before they happen, pins Thor to the ground with telekinesis. Or he flings him into the air, or even turns him around.

Of course, you could argue that Thor is strong enough to break out of this - but it'll take him time. And in that time, Vader can hurl his lightsaber at him and kill him, or just get up close and cut his head off.

What's Thor going to do? Up close, he obviously gets cut and dice by Vader's saber. From a distance, his lightning has much too long a windup to stop, say, a saber throw, a Force pull onto a blade, etc.

Originally posted by KingD19 Wanda has shown no limit on who she can effect so far, and even messed with Cap, Thor's godly brain, etc...

That seems pretty conveniently circular, to scale Scarlet off of Thor, lmao.


He's probably durable enough, especially with his armor to tank at least a couple saber slashes

lol wut, based on what?


Vader won't take more than one good whack or throw from Mjolnir.

Good thing he possesses precognition sufficient to deflect coordinated blaster fire, eh?


Thor has literally every advantage.

Except he really doesn't. His attacks are too slow, and his head is too squishy for Vader to not cut it off.

Vader wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor oneshots him.

yep

Vader ragdolls him

Originally posted by carthage
Vader ragdolls him
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Mind Tricks only work on weak minds. I doubt that it would work on a god-alein that's lived hundreds of years and faced countless battles (age, experience, battle hardiness) that needs to prove his worthiness to a "magic" hammer.

And if Thor throws his hammer, Vader isn't going to be deflecting it or stopping it via the force. And his movie version isn't really the best dodger. And the hammer has been seen hitting orbit in under 2-3 second, so it's pretty damned fast.

He is durable enough to face tank the rainbow bridge explosion at ground zero with zero injuries.

He is also fast enough with his hammer to nonchalantly deflect multiple Chitauri energy bolts (and he does this without precog) and dodge a thrown wing at close range while moving forward. So he's not slow.

And while Vader isn't slow, he is not very fast in saber dueling vs other jedis (and tends to more often power thru his opponents during a saber lock) either, from his showings. He's been a lot slower since getting burned and cyborg-ed. Even his Rebels TV showings weren't really fast.

Vader isn't overpowering Thor with the force. And he's certainly not going to be able to pin him down before Thor throws his hammer (w/c is his go-to move). Vader isn't deflecting the hammer and he's not likely to dodge it.

Originally posted by Nibedicus

He is also fast enough with his hammer to nonchalantly deflect multiple Chitauri energy bolts (and he does this without precog) and dodge a thrown wing at close range while moving forward. So he's not slow.

Correct.

Thor has shown he's clearly faster than Hulk.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Correct.

Thor has shown he's clearly faster than Hulk.

More skilled not faster, kiddo.

For a battle hardened centuries old god alien, thor falls for lokis ilusions pretty easily.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
For a battle hardened centuries old god alien, thor falls for lokis ilusions pretty easily.

Well, seeing as Loki is just as old and possibly almost as battle-hardened and specializes in trickery, how is that surprising?

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
For a battle hardened centuries old god alien, thor falls for lokis ilusions pretty easily.
Your point ?

Just saying while mighty and strong would work, i would not describe thor as strong minded. When faced against the ether whatever his plan was to simply bash it with his hammer.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Just saying while mighty and strong would work, i would not describe thor as strong minded. When faced against the ether whatever his plan was to simply bash it with his hammer.
Vader can't make him stop attacking therefore he dies

"this is not the sith you're looking for."
"you're not the sith I'm looking for.
"you want to go have a drink of mead"
"I want to go have a drink of mead....."

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
"this is not the sith you're looking for."
"you're not the sith I'm looking for.
"you want to go have a drink of mead"
"I want to go have a drink of mead....."

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Excellent post!

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Darth Vader: "I'm not the Sith you're looking for."
Thor: Throws Mjolnir
Darth Vader: Dies
Thor: Goes for mead

Originally posted by Silent Master
Darth Vader: "I'm not the Sith you're looking for."
Thor: Throws Mjolnir
Darth Vader: Dies
Thor: Goes for mead

I do agree that that is undoubtably what would really happen...

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Just saying while mighty and strong would work, i would not describe thor as strong minded. When faced against the ether whatever his plan was to simply bash it with his hammer.

That is quite a false comparison. One's ability to create intelligent plans has zero bearing on one's strength of mind. That is about intelligence, not strength of mind.

And his plan was not to destroy the ether, his plan was to have Malekith remove the Ether from Jane to save her life (and then deal with the consequences as best he could or deal with Malekith's threat himself). And btw, while not really proceeding as smoothly as it should have, his plan did work because he had the will to see it thru. The threat of Malekith was ended. So there goes your whole argument.

Essentially:

Originally posted by Silent Master
Darth Vader: "I'm not the Sith you're looking for."
Thor: Throws Mjolnir
Darth Vader: Dies
Thor: Goes for mead

So what counts as a strong mind? Is just bring a main character, because thats stupid. Thor falls for illusions, can't come with a good plan, and has gone down to mind tricks before. His plot armour ain't that thick.