Darth Vader vs Thor

Started by Nibedicus8 pages

I have never seen Vader move/react fight at speed you are saying. Pls post him covering the needed distance to decap Thor before Thor throws his hammer (w/c takes him like half a second). As tripping Thor doesn't mean he just lays there like an idiot.

And Vader isn't catching Mjolnir with his TK, pls show me clips of Vader using his TK defensively to catch anything (as we need to quantify how much force those things generate) as I can't remember him ever doing this.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
New canon; Marvel comics and TCW + Rebels count, too.

Imp made a ruling (I requested it during my debate with DT IIRC) on these forums some time back (do a search). Movies and TV series count. He made an exception for TV, normally it is movie "feats" only.

Comics and novels are not allowed in the movie VS forums. Canonicity notwithstanding.

TCW and Rebels are allowed, though? Or live-action tv series only?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
TCW and Rebels are allowed, though? Or live-action tv series only?

TCW and Rebels are allowed (I think he mentioned TCW as an example specifically). Although Vader is not really the same as Anakin in terms of a lot of their capabilities.

You're right - he's better 🙂

As much as I like SW and dislike Thor, though, I need to admit I was just playing devil's advocate here. Thor has too much raw power, AoE attacks, crazy toughness... he's taking the majority. Vader needs to get some feats in R1.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You're right - he's better 🙂

As much as I like SW and dislike Thor, though, I need to admit I was just playing devil's advocate here. Thor has too much raw power, AoE attacks, crazy toughness... he's taking the majority. Vader needs to get some feats in R1.

In some ways, yes. But he's lost much of his agility. He's gained a lot better at using the force, tho.

Agree and hoping for better "feats" at R1 as well.

I always thought of him as of a Darkseid-type of a character... moving slowly on purpose, zero f*cks given, because of his vast power. But yeah, it'd be extremely hard to find Vader's acrobatic feats matching those of Anakin, even if we count Legends and stuff.

But hey, he did jump off those stairs on Bespin, OT Yoda and Kenobi have nothing that tops that 😎

Originally posted by Nibedicus
In some ways, yes. But he's lost much of his agility. He's gained a lot better at using the force, tho.

Force powers increase all abilities.

It's just Vader never needed to show off much speed/agility in the OT, given who his opponents were.

Mega Agile Maul though confirms he's no match for Vader in Rebels.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Force powers increase all abilities.

It's just Vader never needed to show off much speed/agility in the OT, given who his opponents were.

Mega Agile Maul though confirms he's no match for Vader in Rebels.

Vader is slower and powerful. It's the way he's always been portrayed despite DT's fanboyism.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Vader struggled with a noob Luke. Thor is faster, far stronger, better reflexes in character, and far more powerful. Vader gets wrecked.

Thor loses! And, Vader never struggled with Luke! Luke was his son, do you think he wanted him dead? Vader could have killed him any moment he wanted. Vader is so powerfull, he can kill people through a screen. Just like he did with one of his generals. Thor is dead.

Vader definately has the power to kill thor, the only question is if he'll have enough time with thor being faster. I personslly think so but thats just me.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Vader definately has the power to kill thor, the only question is if he'll have enough time with thor being faster. I personslly think so but thats just me.

he got telekinesis, so speed is not required. He can freeze thor in mid-air.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
he got telekinesis, so speed is not required. He can freeze thor in mid-air.

Post an example of him doing so to a Thor level opponent.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Post an example of him doing so to a Thor level opponent.

What do you mean!? Vader has telekinesis, he can choke Thor. As easy as that. You can check it up in youtube. I can't post links at this moments, sorry.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Thor loses! And, Vader never struggled with Luke! Luke was his son, do you think he wanted him dead? Vader could have killed him any moment he wanted. Vader is so powerfull, he can kill people through a screen. Just like he did with one of his generals. Thor is dead.
Not based off anything logical just fanboyism. Speculation. We see them battle at the end of Rotj with Luke being fully trained how easily he bests Vader in saber combat. Vader killed someone without powers who wasn't able to harm him off screen. What a pathetic coward.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Vader definately has the power to kill thor, the only question is if he'll have enough time with thor being faster. I personslly think so but thats just me.
Based on ?

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
What do you mean!? Vader has telekinesis, he can choke Thor. As easy as that. You can check it up in youtube. I can't post links at this moments, sorry.

When has Vader ever choked someone with Thor's durability?

What exactly is thor's durability. He was stabbed by loki who was visibly shaken by being beat by cap. Vader has lifted an atat and could rip chuncks of machinery apart and toss them effortlessly.

AT-AT or AT-ST? When did it happen?

Originally posted by Nibedicus
I have never seen Vader move/react fight at speed you are saying. Pls post him covering the needed distance to decap Thor before Thor throws his hammer (w/c takes him like half a second). As tripping Thor doesn't mean he just lays there like an idiot.

Do you seriously think Thor can throw his hammer + the hammer travels through the air + it hits a mobile Vader before Vader can clench his fists, or just think about Thor getting thrown around?


And Vader isn't catching Mjolnir with his TK, pls show me clips of Vader using his TK defensively to catch anything (as we need to quantify how much force those things generate) as I can't remember him ever doing this.

It's ridiculous to deny that Vader could catch things with TK when the same Kylo Ren who worships him and fears he'll never be as strong as him can do so to a blaster bolt, but regardless, that wasn't really the point - the point is that Vader can, through his precognition + telekinesis + lightsaber, hit Thor before Thor can hit Vader.

Or since when can Thor stop a lightsaber throw when he's getting knocked around by telekinesis at the same time?


Imp made a ruling (I requested it during my debate with DT IIRC) on these forums some time back (do a search). Movies and TV series count. He made an exception for TV, normally it is movie "feats" only.

Comics and novels are not allowed in the movie VS forums. Canonicity notwithstanding.

Ah. Well, with his comic and novel feats Vader would destroy Thor. With just the movies and Rebels series, he's still powerful enough to toss around Thor for at least the time needed to chop his head off (he does lift an AT-ST in Rebels).

At st are two legged ones right? The one vader lifted had four.