Originally posted by h1a8
We have no idea what was in the writer's head back then. It's possible that the writer could have wanted him with at least low level superhuman strength and stats when he first wrote him. We simply don't know. Comics are canon anyway. So at least, by retcon, Goblin always had the stats.
We do know because we got detailed villain profiles as extras at the end of one TASM issue.
Just admit already you haven't read much Spider-Man.
Originally posted by h1a8
Yes, but that has nothing to do with the debate. You are nitpicking on something that contributes nothing to the debate. A normal human can't break those slabs. You have to have some skill involved.But that's irrelevant. You are derailing the thread. My argument is that Spider-man can break something more than 100x more durable than what a human can break. This implies he can damage Thing. If you disagree then address that argument, not the irrelevant one about MA actually break slabs.
If someone argues 2 points where each can stand on its own and someone else attacks one of the points (but not the other) then their argument still stands as proof. Nitpicking doesn't destroy an argument, it derails it.RPGs can't take out tanks at all. Where are you getting this from? They do squat shit to tanks.
They can take out very small armored vehicles though.
Show this feat where Thing tanks a RPG with a scan or give an issue number.
It has everything to do with it, because your argument isn't even based on science(as science shows it's not nearly as impressive as it works and common sense says breaking them doesn't apply to a fight).
Already covered. Your argument is dumb and shouldn't have been made. But I find it ironic you would complain about my nitpicking and then nitpick the Hell out of my scans in another topic. 😆
Maybe you have a different meaning, but RPGs were made for fighting tanks. 😬 I think you're thinking of the fact that armor(both armored vehicles/tanks and body armor) and weapons have always been in a one-up since we started shooting each other.
Don't remember where, but it's rich that you of all people would demand a scan or issue reference when you never provide any evidence.
Originally posted by Delta1938
It has everything to do with it, because your argument isn't even based on science(as science shows it's not nearly as impressive as it works and common sense says breaking them doesn't apply to a fight).Already covered. Your argument is dumb and shouldn't have been made. But I find it ironic you would complain about my nitpicking and then nitpick the Hell out of my scans in another topic. 😆
Maybe you have a different meaning, but RPGs were made for fighting tanks. 😬 I think you're thinking of the fact that armor(both armored vehicles/tanks and body armor) and weapons have always been in a one-up since we started shooting each other.
Don't remember where, but it's rich that you of all people would demand a scan or issue reference when you never provide any evidence.
I seen a lot of videos where RPG didn't do squat shit to tanks.
Maybe these were major tanks, idk?
I don't even remember the arguments here anymore.
All I know is that Spidey can indeed hurt Thing if he's serious enough. If you want to use Thing's best feats then Spidey's best feats are over 100 tons.
Originally posted by h1a8
I seen a lot of videos where RPG didn't do squat shit to tanks.
Maybe these were major tanks, idk?
I don't even remember the arguments here anymore.All I know is that Spidey can indeed hurt Thing if he's serious enough. If you want to use Thing's best feats then Spidey's best feats are over 100 tons.
I already covered it. Armor and anti-armor weapons are constantly evolving. The RPGs most commonly used today were a lot more effective at the time, then we made better armor, now the Russians have made a new generation that looks like it'd **** up our tanks.
If you don't remember, go back through. You seem to have a habit of not familiarizing yourself with revived topics. Not even reading the OP!! 😱
By your arguments everywhere else, fights are irrelevant because the characters aren't always fighting to their best with their full strength and Spidey's feats being that are PIS, therefore you're contradicting your argument with just about any other character.
Originally posted by Delta1938
I already covered it. Armor and anti-armor weapons are constantly evolving. The RPGs most commonly used today were a lot more effective at the time, then we made better armor, now the Russians have made a new generation that looks like it'd **** up our tanks.If you don't remember, go back through. You seem to have a habit of not familiarizing yourself with revived topics. Not even reading the OP!! 😱
By your arguments everywhere else, fights are irrelevant because the characters aren't always fighting to their best with their full strength and Spidey's feats being that are PIS, therefore you're contradicting your argument with just about any other character.
That's not my stance. I implied that sometimes a character isn't fighting to his best ability as shown before in comics. This has nothing to do with strength levels but speed, perception, smarts, etc.
I didn't say Spideys feats are PIS. I'm just saying that if you use Things highest showings then it's only fair that we use Spideys highest ones too.
And Spidey is then easily capable of damaging Thing.
Originally posted by h1a8
That's not my stance. I implied that sometimes a character isn't fighting to his best ability as shown before in comics. This has nothing to do with strength levels but speed, perception, smarts, etc.I didn't say Spideys feats are PIS. I'm just saying that if you use Things highest showings then it's only fair that we use Spideys highest ones too.
And Spidey is then easily capable of damaging Thing.
You almost always dismiss fights and focus on feats without even actually providing any scans to prove your case and get obsessed with math.
Except when it comes to Spider-Man, that I've seen. Then you'll dickride the shit out of those fights. And your entire argument that Spider-Man will damage Thing has been based on you not understanding how breaking blocks actually works, that it wouldn't apply in a fight(because of how it's done), and the assumption that even if it did, it accurately translates into comics.
In short, you argue comics, but hardly if ever give evidence and show you don't understand them. GG.
Originally posted by Delta1938Well we can say that Spider-Man can harm Thing by feats and by fights. Take your pick. So that argument is over.
You almost always dismiss fights and focus on feats without even actually providing any scans to prove your case and get obsessed with math.Except when it comes to Spider-Man, that I've seen. Then you'll dickride the shit out of those fights. And your entire argument that Spider-Man will damage Thing has been based on you not understanding how breaking blocks actually works, that it wouldn't apply in a fight(because of how it's done), and the assumption that even if it did, it accurately translates into comics.
In short, you argue comics, but hardly if ever give evidence and show you don't understand them. GG.
Originally posted by h1a8
I seen a lot of videos where RPG didn't do squat shit to tanks.
Maybe these were major tanks, idk?
I don't even remember the arguments here anymore.All I know is that Spidey can indeed hurt Thing if he's serious enough. If you want to use Thing's best feats then Spidey's best feats are over 100 tons.
It depends on which side the rpg hits. Some portions of tanks are more heavily armored