Homophobia: The New Closeted Homosexual

Started by Sin I AM13 pages

Originally posted by snowdragon
Its a good thing then the profiling is used to help prevent crime but its not the only tool. Which is why labels help to identify things, people, behaviors, food etc to deny that is sophmoric.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/disturbed/201402/does-criminal-profiling-work

Islam isn't a very forgiving or progressive religion in regards to womens rights or the lbgt community. I'd say the act of killing in the name of said beliefs is radical unless you believe thats a normal behavior for islams to begin with.

Interesting article. Would've been good if they put that profiling to use on all these mass shootings we seem to have.

Have you ever practiced the Islamic faith?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Have you ever practiced the Islamic faith?

Nope and I don't shoot people either 😱

Originally posted by Sin I AM
You couldnt answer a simple question and I lack comprehension skills lol try harder. Anywho labeling it would alienate muslims who aren't radical. You're attaching a negative to a religion that views the west with caution. It may not matter to you but some find it offensive. We aren't going to win this war with that mindset. I for one don't care what it's called, it's a trivial talking point when action is what's required.

If you aren't a radical Islamist there is no reason to find it offensive. Your answer makes no sense at all.

One example does not equate to this:

No, Christians just blow up abortion clinics and gay bars. There is an entire laundry list of such incidents prior to this. But hey, a Muslim did this one, so those others never happened.

Man you're dumb.

Don't call that "radical Christianity", it makes some people upset, even though he's technically following biblical scripture

So should we start calling it "radical political ideology" each time there's mass murder from a dictator?

Originally posted by Stigma
I think you got easily confused Rob, but that comes as no surprise...

No-one in their sound mind is upset when you call radicalized Christians, radical...

You must be thinking about radical Islam, that is, the most homophobic religion in the modern world according to Pew Research study, while this is also collaborated by CNN poll on British Muslims and an article posted a few posts above.

Yet, some people refuse to call radical Islam for what it is. Example is Sin and Surtur's exchange in this very thread.

You possibly have missed all of that while you were browsing this thread. I am glad to help. 👆

Given your reputation as an intellectual maverick of unblemished integrity, I am sure you will prove this assertion. 👆

Seems Poland eeking out a win today made you uppity.

To your snooty question: Ever heard of Leviticus?

Edit: 👆 👆 👆

You're also supposed to know what to take literally not. It's not all black and white Rob. I mean I realize it makes it easier for atheists/secularists to argue but...

So what's the not literal interpretation?

Originally posted by Surtur
If you aren't a radical Islamist there is no reason to find it offensive. Your answer makes no sense at all.

How would you know what a moderate Islamist feels?

Originally posted by Robtard
So what's the not literal interpretation?
of what exactly? Be specific.

Originally posted by Robtard
Seems Poland seeking out a win today made you uppity.
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I think you meant ““happy”. I see you’re still easily confused, Rob. 😉

Indeed I am happy about Poland’s win, and happy that we can observe a maverick like yourself doing marvelous pirouettes...

However, while you’re at it you may want to substantiate your claim. FYI “Ever heard of Leviticus?” is not exactly giving substance to your assertion 👆

So, to sum up, you claimed that …

This:

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Eric Robert Rudolph, also known as the Olympic Park Bomber, is an American convicted for a series of anti-abortion and anti-gay-motivated bombings across the southern United States between 1996 and 1998, which killed two people and injured over 120 others.

Rudolph has made it clear in his written statement and elsewhere that the purpose of the bombings was to fight against abortion and the "homosexual agenda." He considered abortion to be murder, the product of a "rotten feast of materialism and self-indulgence"; accordingly, he believed that its perpetrators deserved death, and that the United States government had lost its legitimacy by sanctioning it. He also considered it essential to resist by force "the concerted effort to legitimize the practice of homosexuality" in order to protect "the integrity of American society" and "the very existence of our culture", whose foundation is the "family hearth." And he is not the most recent or the most egregious example.

Is this:

Originally posted by Robtard
he's technically following biblical scripture

How do you support this claim?

BTW sorry for some spelling mistakes but my edit button is apparently malfunctioning.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
How would you know what a moderate Islamist feels?

I don't, but do you not feel it is common sense? Can you explain to me why someone whose beliefs aren't radical would care that we label terrorists as radical? I just don't get it. The only way that could happen is if the person wasn't really "moderate" after all.

This is like saying we shouldn't call police brutality..police brutality, because not all police are brutal and it might make the good cops feel bad. Yet Obama has no qualms about discussing police brutality and giving it the proper term. May I ask your opinion on why you feel that is?

Originally posted by Surtur
I don't, but do you not feel it is common sense? Can you explain to me why someone whose beliefs aren't radical would care that we label terrorists as radical? I just don't get it. The only way that could happen is if the person wasn't really "moderate" after all.

This is like saying we shouldn't call police brutality..police brutality, because not all police are brutal and it might make the good cops feel bad. Yet Obama has no qualms about discussing police brutality and giving it the proper term. May I ask your opinion on why you feel that is?

Of course you wouldn't youre not the one being arbitrarily grouped in. The keyword islam make it all encompassing and it all goes back to ignorance, racism and basic lack of understanding of other cultures.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Of course you wouldn't youre not the one being arbitrarily grouped in. The keyword islam make it all encompassing and it all goes back to ignorance, racism and basic lack of understanding of other cultures.

If it were meant to represent all of Islam then there would be no need to call it "radical Islam". The ignorance comes when someone can't differentiate between the two...is what I would think.

You're not a moderate Islamist if you get pissed off that a radical Islamist was called a radical Islamist. Not only that, but the person would also have to lack a basic understanding of what words mean.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
You're attaching a negative to a religion that views the west with caution.

Originally posted by Stigma
Yet, the west that views Islam with caution is unacceptable, yes or no?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Yes.

I am glad you openly state that you use double standards. Nice to have it out of the way in this debate. 👆

What you said is in essence this:
- Islam views the West with caution and its ok
- The West should not view Islam with caution, it’s not ok

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Only because the US wants the world to perceive it as a bastion of democracy. Can't have your cake and eat it too

I also hope that you are aware that the term “West” is not confined to the US.

Nevertheless, obviously you will need to expand on that claim 👆

So, what you’re saying is that democratic society like the US cannot have its suspicions about some ideologies, why? What prevents democracy to view some ideologies with caution?

Some food for thought:

YouTube video

I especially like it because it shows how moronic the other side can act when people talk about radical Islam. The bald headed dipshit actually compares this to priests molesting kids and saying should we condemn all Christians for the acts of pedophile priests and then at the end says "so what you want to declare war on Islam?" when nobody even said that.

This is the kind of f*cktarded logic some people use.

Originally posted by Surtur
If it were meant to represent all of Islam then there would be no need to call it "radical Islam". The ignorance comes when someone can't differentiate between the two...is what I would think.

You're not a moderate Islamist if you get pissed off that a radical Islamist was called a radical Islamist. Not only that, but the person would also have to lack a basic understanding of what words mean.

For one you dont understand the culture. Your putting your perspective on what you think an islamic person should feel when yourself have never practiced the religion. Thats just your white privilege shining thru. Alot is lost in translation and by adding that little word radical to islam youre alienating a culture. What may be common sense to you is obviously not so to 1.5 billion but meh it's a pointless topic because whether its called radical islam or not it dont mean a damn to the actual war on terror.

Originally posted by Stigma
I am glad you openly state that you use double standards. Nice to have it out of the way in this debate. 👆

What you said is in essence this:
- Islam views the West with caution and its ok
- The West should not view Islam with caution, it’s not ok

I also hope that you are aware that the term “West” is not confined to the US.

Nevertheless, obviously you will need to expand on that claim 👆

So, what you’re saying is that democratic society like the US cannot have its suspicions about some ideologies, why? What prevents democracy to view some ideologies with caution?

Double standards? I thought Time was the only one who lacked reading comprehension here. The US is THE leader of the world. Whether culturally, militarily...whatever. We run the show. And we like to show the world that democracy is THE best show in town. We puff out chest out ans say all men are created equal, freedom of speech, religion...all that jazz. Which is why the States cant view an ideology with caution. It’s BECAUSE of all that American pie and propaganda we sling as to not come off as if we are oppressing a religion or even at war with one. A country like Iraq? We can nuke them without cause but a religion no...and we cant be allowed to be perceived as such

Originally posted by Stigma
How do you support this claim?

Literally already answered that on this very page, so if you're going to ignore answers only to ask the same question again, in the very least stop implying other people are stupid and that you're a smart person.

Cos all you're doing is feeding the stereotype that Pollocks are imbeciles.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
For one you dont understand the culture. Your putting your perspective on what you think an islamic person should feel when yourself have never practiced the religion. Thats just your white privilege shining thru. Alot is lost in translation and by adding that little word radical to islam youre alienating a culture. What may be common sense to you is obviously not so to 1.5 billion but meh it's a pointless topic because whether its called radical islam or not it dont mean a damn to the actual war on terror.

Double standards? I thought Time was the only one who lacked reading comprehension here. The US is THE leader of the world. Whether culturally, militarily...whatever. We run the show. And we like to show the world that democracy is THE best show in town. We puff out chest out ans say all men are created equal, freedom of speech, religion...all that jazz. Which is why the States cant view an ideology with caution. It’s BECAUSE of all that American pie and propaganda we sling as to not come off as if we are oppressing a religion or even at war with one. A country like Iraq? We can nuke them without cause but a religion no...and we cant be allowed to be perceived as such

It's white privilege shining through? No, you see you don't get to hand wave this with "it's a different culture". Bottom line, if calling it radical Islam bothers someone so much, they aren't a moderate.

Originally posted by Surtur
It's white privilege shining through? No, you see you don't get to hand wave this with "it's a different culture". Bottom line, if calling it radical Islam bothers someone so much, they aren't a moderate.

Well I'll just chop it up to your lack of knowledge on the subject. Ignorance is bliss I suppose. Agree to disagree.