Hal Jordan vs. Superman

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Batman's speed vs Superman's speed? Or.....?

Being in combat vs chatting illustrates this perfectly.

If you're chatting, and not expecting it, then you can be outreacted.

You think someone could chat to Barry and pick his pocket? No. Why? Because he has superspeed. Even if it was his mum, the last person on Earths he would ever expect to steal from him....he would still be able to react to it.

My point being, being pickpocketed in the middle of a friendly chat shows that your reactions aren't magnitudes higher than a peak human Batman. If it WAS, no amount of unexpectedness would help the thief.

Lol...Batman recently punched a being Flash was unable to hit. Like I said, was a GL expecting it or not. Also, Deathstroke, Nightwing and Batman has beat Flash in combat scenarios where he was expecting it.

Originally posted by carver9
GL'S have super speed as well. To the point that one was quicker on the draw than Superman...

Okay so wait GL's now have super speed on such a level they can out react Superman? I am not denying your feat since yep it's quite clear in the scan Superman says he is faster on the draw. So I don't know what to make of that then, Superman has a plethora of reaction feats and yet you rarely hear about unamped GL's with spectacular reaction time.

On the other hand my memory is fuzzy, but I do remember that fight and I believe Superman proceeds to smash through the construct John creates right?

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...Batman recently punched a being Flash was unable to hit. Like I said, was a GL expecting it or not. Also, Deathstroke, Nightwing and Batman has beat Flash in combat scenarios where he was expecting it.

Dude why are you mentioning these things? I can't tell if you're saying we should take things like Batman being able to tag someone the Flash can't seriously or not.

Originally posted by carver9
Hal creates Kryptonite on the battle field.

Then we have this amazing saying by Superman...

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Carver, you are reaching new heights (depths?) of idiocy.

I am incredibly disappointed. And upset. How did the guy who beat Scooby with such a fantastic BZ, end up like this? It's almost as if....you were two different people.

First of all, read your own scan. That's not Hal. Who is in this thread. That is Kyle. Who is not in this thread. They even call him Kyle.

Martian Manhunter is not here to transmit the formulae into Kyle's head, who isn't even here.

That is also DCU, not DCnU. You may not have seen any of this, but a few years ago, DC had a soft reboot of sorts. DCnU, brah.

Then you posted...what, Hal's plans? So much wrong with that, I don't know where to start.

I was only posting my Batman 'feat' as a tongue in cheek post, lol. But having seen your post....you have convinced me there is no way I can possibly be on the same side as you in this debate, lol.

Originally posted by carver9
GL'S have super speed as well. To the point that one was quicker on the draw than Superman...

He hesitates, so they all get in position - then effs them up.

Also, that's John Stewart. Why do you keep crossing feats? Next, you're going to post Mogo feats for Hal?

Originally posted by MF DELPH
Superman kills Hal, Hal comes back as a Black Lantern and summons Nekron who, along with the Black Lantern Central Power Battery and Black Hand, bursts out of Superman's chest.

Hal wins.

Fatality.

😆 That's so cheesy it's awesome.

Originally posted by carver9
Hal creates Kryptonite on the battle field.

Then we have this amazing saying by Superman...

Originally posted by carver9
GL'S have super speed as well. To the point that one was quicker on the draw than Superman...

You're ****ing terrible at this, even for your standards.

I get the impression that since Hal Jordan is usually seen as more skilled than John..that if John can do it Hal could too.

Which to be fair I actually wouldn't have a problem with. But since Superman does end up punching through the construct to me that shows that while they might be able to create a construct on the fly..they can't bust out their strongest shield in a split second.

So I still say Superman wins via blitz and any construct Hal potentially creates in the split second he has to react will not be strong enough to protect him.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He hesitates, so they all get in position - then effs them up.

Also, that's John Stewart. Why do you keep crossing feats? Next, you're going to post Mogo feats for Hal?

Carter is always about sharing feats, until it hurts his case. Then we don't share feats.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
O.

M.

G.

Carver, you are reaching new heights (depths?) of idiocy.

I am incredibly disappointed. And upset. How did the guy who beat Scooby with such a fantastic BZ, end up like this? It's almost as if....you were two different people.

First of all, read your own scan. That's not Hal. Who is in this thread. That is Kyle. Who is not in this thread. They even call him Kyle.

Martian Manhunter is not here to transmit the formulae into Kyle's head, who isn't even here.

That is also DCU, not DCnU. You may not have seen any of this, but a few years ago, DC had a soft reboot of sorts. DCnU, brah.

Then you posted...what, Hal's plans? So much wrong with that, I don't know where to start.

I was only posting my Batman 'feat' as a tongue in cheek post, lol. But having seen your post....you have convinced me there is no way I can possibly be on the same side as you in this debate, lol.

I posted scans of different Lanterns because Hal is the best of the crop. He can easily replicate those showings.

So again, why did you bring up Batman...a being who took out the entirety of the JLA (minus Superman of course). A being who survived an onslaught from Superman. Also, GL fts carried over. They didn't go through the reboot.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He hesitates, so they all get in position - then effs them up.

Also, that's John Stewart. Why do you keep crossing feats? Next, you're going to post Mogo feats for Hal?

Crossing fts? The Lanterns didn't go through the reboot. We are done.

Originally posted by Surtur
Okay so wait GL's now have super speed on such a level they can out react Superman? I am not denying your feat since yep it's quite clear in the scan Superman says he is faster on the draw. So I don't know what to make of that then, Superman has a plethora of reaction feats and yet you rarely hear about unamped GL's with spectacular reaction time.

On the other hand my memory is fuzzy, but I do remember that fight and I believe Superman proceeds to smash through the construct John creates right?

Dude why are you mentioning these things? I can't tell if you're saying we should take things like Batman being able to tag someone the Flash can't seriously or not.

During that scene he did. Then we have them fighting without receiving any issues of not being able to tag Superman.

Yes, he did break through John shield with a single punch.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He hesitates, so they all get in position - then effs them up.

Also, that's John Stewart. Why do you keep crossing feats? Next, you're going to post Mogo feats for Hal?

Nother to defend Carver, but it's obvious he's showing GL feats of lesser lanterns and assuming Hal could accomplish all of these feats.

i can't wait til abhi gets here..... 👆

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Nother to defend Carver, but it's obvious he's showing GL feats of lesser lanterns and assuming Hal could accomplish all of these feats.

💃

Someone with common sense.

So two pages in and no mention of a Krona busting punch? I guess even GL fans puss up in the face of Superbikinis.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
So two pages in and no mention of a Krona busting punch? I guess even GL fans puss up in the face of Superbikinis.

I brought it up on the first page and Dark hater saint then brings up Batman taking Lantern ring in a non combat situation.

Hal wins.

...But only because of that "amazing saying" from Superman. 👆

Originally posted by carver9
Crossing fts? The Lanterns didn't go through the reboot. We are done.

Martian Manhunter did go through the reboot, though. Scans of DCnU J'onn doing the same as he did with Kyle? And now, he isn't even on the field.

You bring up the fact that Hal is the most skilled and can replicate ALL Lantern feats.

Post scans of Hal knowing the exact chemical composition of DCnU Kryptonite, please. I will wait.

You then showed DCU Hal tagging DCU Superman, then say 'oh, it's OK, DCU GL = DCnU GL'.

DCU Superman = DCnU Superman, then?

You don't even know how to argue, or what you're actually saying.

Originally posted by Galan007
Hal wins.

...But only because of that "amazing saying" from Superman. 👆

👆 👆 Hal also says Batman is the most dangerous out of everyone in the JLA, WW, Superman, Flash et al included.

Originally posted by carver9
So he smashed his best shields?

Superman is flat out more powerful than even Krona's Gauntlet wearing Hal who is a dozen times more powerful than standard Hal. +Shazam, Frankenstein, Flash and a whole deck of them.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Martian Manhunter did go through the reboot, though. Scans of DCnU J'onn doing the same as he did with Kyle? And now, he isn't even on the field.

You bring up the fact that Hal is the most skilled and can replicate ALL Lantern feats.

Post scans of Hal knowing the exact chemical composition of DCnU Kryptonite, please. I will wait.

You then showed DCU Hal tagging DCU Superman, then say 'oh, it's OK, DCU GL = DCnU GL'.

DCU Superman = DCnU Superman, then?

You don't even know how to argue, or what you're actually saying.

I can tell that you're still sensitive about the BZ. Can we discuss this is private via PM so that no one can judge our topic. Let's discuss this like grown men because the privacy of PMS, I know you will keep all a secrete like you've always doooonnn.... oh wait, I'm getting you confused with someone else. 😕

Batman vs Hal. Make the thread.