Originally posted by carver9
GL'S have super speed as well. To the point that one was quicker on the draw than Superman...
😒 Carter, you ****ing dumbass. Superman was focused on Wally, John's construct comes from behind, before it finishes, Supes notices it, and LETS it finish as he lets EVERYBODY, including fickin' Black Canary, prepare. Then, he smashes it. Even if Hal were faster, totally unapplicable in a one-on-one fight starts with them facing each other from a half KM away. It's a shit argument.
😒 Come at me!! 😠
While Hal has some big feats, and GLs have done well against Superman before, on the whole Superman dominates.
Super speed is rarely a factor in Superman's fights. However, over time a motif of Superman stealing the ring at super speed has developed. It's kind of arbitrary, but it has happened a few times. Still, on the whole, speed won't matter very much. But it doesn't need to.
Originally posted by Delta1938
😒 Carter, you ****ing dumbass. Superman was focused on Wally, John's construct comes from behind, before it finishes, Supes notices it, and LETS it finish as he lets EVERYBODY, including fickin' Black Canary, prepare. Then, he smashes it. Even if Hal were faster, totally unapplicable in a one-on-one fight starts with them facing each other from a half KM away. It's a shit argument.😒 Come at me!! 😠
"Hal is FASTER on the draw". Maybe you need to send a message to the writer commenting on those words.
Originally posted by Pillow Biter
While Hal has some big feats, and GLs have done well against Superman before, on the whole Superman dominates.
Super speed is rarely a factor in Superman's fights. However, over time a motif of Superman stealing the ring at super speed has developed. It's kind of arbitrary, but it has happened a few times. Still, on the whole, speed won't matter very much. But it doesn't need to.
Speed is the biggest factor in existence. It's equivalent to fighting someone barely moving. It's arguably the single greatest advantage ever.
Superman viewing Hal in slow motion or not moving would become an easy fight. Unless you think Superman doesn't have the ability to see Hal in super slow motion?
Originally posted by carver9
"Hal is FASTER on the draw". Maybe you need to send a message to the writer commenting on those words.
Damn Bootsie, you've always been all hiss, no scratch, but this is bad even for you. I highlight all the problems that are wrong with your example, that only someone with poor reading comprehension or extreme dishonesty would use, and you still try to defend it?
John's construct came from behind while Supes was focused on Wally and STILL it only enveloped him because Superman allowed it. Let's see how Supes and Hal compare to Professor Zoom head-on.
Hal is too slow, Superman hits Professor Zoom.
Originally posted by Delta1938
Damn Bootsie, you've always been all hiss, no scratch, but this is bad even for you. I highlight all the problems that are wrong with your example, that only someone with poor reading comprehension or extreme dishonesty would use, and you still try to defend it?John's construct came from behind while Supes was focused on Wally and STILL it only enveloped him because Superman allowed it. Let's see how Supes and Hal compare to Professor Zoom head-on.
Hal is too slow, Superman hits Professor Zoom.
Superman tried to tag Flash (which means he wasn't moving slow at all) but John beat him to the punch. Seems quite obvious to me what's going on there.
Originally posted by carver9
Superman tried to tag Flash (which means he wasn't moving slow at all) but John beat him to the punch. Seems quite obvious to me what's going on there.
So the fact that even when John did that from behind while Supes was focused on Wally, Superman STILL NOTICED what John was doing BEFORE it finished, and LET it finish, somehow means his speed is worth a **** in a head on fight.
So, are you lying or just wrong? 😆
Originally posted by carver9
Nope, he isn't.
In that other topic over 2 hours ago. Carter--
Originally posted by h1a8
Speed is the biggest factor in existence. It's equivalent to fighting someone barely moving. It's arguably the single greatest advantage ever.Superman viewing Hal in slow motion or not moving would become an easy fight. Unless you think Superman doesn't have the ability to see Hal in super slow motion?
Really, it's 2016 and battleboards have been up for nearly twenty years. And some people still don't understand that comics are not realistic, and that by convention super speed rarely gets used to its full potential.
That's WHY the ring stealing thing is arbitrary--super speed suddenly gets used somewhat realistically here to affect the fight outcome, but is not usually used in many other ways. It's used to steal rings only because it seems cool, not because it makes more sense to use it that way than a hundred other ways.
