Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
He doesn't, but he's always in the fight with the heavy weights due to strength and durability. Aquaman's record is no better.
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Wheres the feat that Simon moves something greater?
Anyways... Here Grulk throws a big @$$ Las Vegas pyramid on the Avengers. Wonder Man(and Iron Man) catches it and chucks it up in the air.
And the Avengers Island feat is beyond the trench feat and is being underestimated. At first we see that Sue is supporting a very large portion of the island's weight, but Wonder Man swoops in and takes the weight off of her briefly. The island is by no means considered large as island go, but it was pretty sizeable. It was large enough to house it's own mountain. There are other depictions of it in many other issues that really show it's size.
And going back to the trench feat it is impressive and is easily a class 100 type feat, but loses here because he didn't support any weight. His strength overcame the durability of the overhanging formation at the trench. Arthur divebombed to create the initial damage then pushed hard enough to break off a smaller portion of the overhanging edifice as shown in the first scan and the cracks that started to form in the second scan.
Originally posted by leonidas
uh? he didn't life anything there at all.... 😑 all he did was help balance it. the pillar was holding the bulk of the weight... wtf? that not even close to the sub diego feat OR the trench feat. the trench feat was likely the greatest of all the feats posted so far.
Lulz. glad you said it first.
Originally posted by leonidas
um, how is that balancing act a strength feat at all, really....? seems to me if anything it's more a reflection of the strength of his little jet blasters in that scene. sort of.
The island was not level so it's not as simple as just balancing. First panel on first scan is quite clear.
This right here is probably one of Arthur's more impressive (if not most) showings.
Throwing a submarine from deep underwater and clearing the surface of the water was pretty beastly.
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Originally posted by celeyhyga17
The amount of energy expends through his boosters is dependent on how hard he pushes himself. It's like Superman(and other flying bricks) flying and lifting things. In reality I don't consider lifting things while flying pure strength feats(though they are strength feats to some extent imo), but that's a whole can of worms I wouldn't want to open now...The island was not level so it's not as simple as just balancing. First panel on first scan is quite clear.
No matter how anyone tries to spin it, these two characters are in the same weight class. Arthur is just a better fighter by a country mile. His best feat to date is when he went up against Rulk, but that really doesn't impress me, because Rulk was on his way out with the door hitting him in the ass while he on his way. Strength means nothing when you're fighting a guy as strong as you are but is a superior combatant. Arthur should win this with medium difficulty.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
But that trench feat is well below shaking an entire planet(mini) just from shockwaves.
Why would he need to have a showing moving something greater?Anyways... Here Grulk throws a big @$$ Las Vegas pyramid on the Avengers. Wonder Man(and Iron Man) catches it and chucks it up in the air.
And the Avengers Island feat is beyond the trench feat and is being underestimated. At first we see that Sue is supporting a very large portion of the island's weight, but Wonder Man swoops in and takes the weight off of her briefly. The island is by no means considered large as island go, but it was pretty sizeable. It was large enough to house it's own mountain. There are other depictions of it in many other issues that really show it's size.
And going back to the trench feat it is impressive and is easily a class 100 type feat, but loses here because he didn't support any weight. His strength overcame the durability of the overhanging formation at the trench. Arthur divebombed to create the initial damage then pushed hard enough to break off a smaller portion of the overhanging edifice as shown in the first scan and the cracks that started to form in the second scan.
Your joking right?
1. Oceanic Trenches are in the very bottom of the ocean there the oceans floor. So keep in mind the pressure,
2. Dive bombed what? What initial pressure. If that was true it would make more sense for the area he's dive bombing at for him to go straight through or to Crack through it, in the Wonder Man scan the area he's pressing on is crumbled that's what happens when your pressing on something with extensive strength.
3. If the dive bomb thing was the case even further why would Aquaman be struggling through 5 panels..
4. Sue helps Simon with the Weight that he's not even fully lifting he's balancing a large land mass sure but he's not pressing down on it to move it through a layer of earth or isnt lifting above himself he's just balancing it on a pillar with the help of Sue. Mera just sits their and watches not even helping with her Hydrokinesis. Wheras Sue put more support on the pillar when she did drop the help she was giving.
Also WonderMan's rocket belt having the strength to?
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Your joking right?1. Oceanic Trenches are in the very bottom of the ocean there the oceans floor. So keep in mind the pressure,
2. Dive bombed what? What initial pressure. If that was true it would make more sense for the area he's dive bombing at for him to go straight through or to Crack through it, in the Wonder Man scan the area he's pressing on is crumbled that's what happens when your pressing on something with extensive strength.
3. If the dive bomb thing was the case even further why would Aquaman be struggling through 5 panels..
4. Sue helps Simon with the Weight that he's not even fully lifting he's balancing a large land mass sure but he's not pressing down on it to move it through a layer of earth or isnt lifting above himself he's just balancing it on a pillar with the help of Sue. Mera just sits their and watches not even helping with her Hydrokinesis. Wheras Sue put more support on the pillar when she did drop the help she was giving.
Not sure why you aren't seeing it. He attacked the overhanging formation with a dive bomb. Notice the mark he left at where he crashed down. It's very reminiscent of many other comics where a character is shown landing forcefully. Then he keeps at it and cracks start to form on the periphery of the area he landed on.
To you it would make more sense. Unfortunately he wasn't able to destroy it here at one shot.
Notice the island is basically about to slide off the pillar with its very unbalanced left side as the lead.
He supported the weight of that very unbalanced side of the island. At one point Sue even removes her force field. How that is not impressive is confusing to me considering he is basically a mote of dust to a building when we compare him to the island's size.
Originally posted by riv6672
Yup.The whole AQ is a better fighter/WMs feat against Rulk isnt impressive i obviously disagree with of course.
How is Simon as good a fighter? Where has he ever shown it? His performance against Rulk is his best to date, but then again like I stated Rulk was turned into a scrub, and was nothing like he was during the Loeb era. This is a hard fact. Simon would have never beaten Loeb era Rulk.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Ok good. Pressure.Not sure why you aren't seeing it. He attacked the overhanging formation with a dive bomb. Notice the mark he left at where he crashed down. It's very reminiscent of many other comics where a character is shown landing forcefully. Then he keeps at it and cracks start to form on the periphery of the area he landed on.
To you it would make more sense. Unfortunately he wasn't able to destroy it here at one shot.
Notice the island is basically about to slide off the pillar with its very unbalanced left side as the lead.
He supported the weight of that very unbalanced side of the island. At one point Sue even removes her force field. How that is not impressive is confusing to me considering he is basically a mote of dust to a building when we compare him to the island's size.
Its questionable is why Im not to impressed you have so many statements in the panels provided that question the idea of Simon actually being cable of lifting the island which he doesn't Btw.
Its more difficult to bench or press weights then it is to pick up something on a one side axis (that is already airborne on the other side with something beneath it for support)
1. Simon doesn't lift an island he simply keeps it leveled at most, let's not pretend the pillar isn't providing any support.
2. Simon was straining when Sue was helping him and she showed the ability to atleast temporarily hold it so I don't even know if he's even holding the extent of it.
3. He shows signs of struggling even when Sue was helping and then what she does seems to support the pillar so it could stay in place. Why anyone would leave an island on a landmass to me is questionable though
4, His jet booster strength is being mentioned so I'm not sure how much support that's applying and to be honest I don't even know why that would be mentioned.
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Its questionable is why Im not to impressed you have so many statements in the panels provided that question the idea of Simon actually being cable of lifting the island which he doesn't Btw.Its more difficult to bench or press weights then it is to pick up something on a one side axis.
1. Simon doesn't lift an island he simply keeps it leveled at most, let's not pretend the pillar isn't providing any support.
2. Simon was straining when Sue was helping him and she showed the ability to atleast temporarily hold it so I don't even know if he's even holding the extent of it.
3. He show's signs of struggling even when Sue was helping and then what she does it reaffirm the pillar.
4, His jet booster strength is being mentioned so I'm not sure how much support that's applying and to be one st I don't even know why that would be mentioned.
2. At one point as per the scan, he supported the highly unbalanced side by himself.
3. Did anyone say otherwise?
4. K.. Just in case you weren't aware, his booster is not a separate entity. It is directly connected to him. Pretend the booster did not exist and his flight is portrayed like a standard flying brick a la Superman. For them to function, it utilizes his very own ionic energies. That's essentially how they work.
