Sabers: Ahsoka stomps- Dueling peak Vader and peak Maul so well is leaps and bounds ahead of Meetra v Nyriss
Force: Ahsoka- Ahsoka telekinetically manhandled the inquisitors (who actually have pretty impressive TK all things considered), shoved Vader, and may or may not have survived that temple explosion, all of which are more impressive than... What?... Having descriptions of Force powers in a campaign guide?
All-Out: Ahsoka- superiority as a duelist and Force wielder
Surik.
Grew more powerful than even Traya in the years after Malachor V, when she reached her prime. She has a technical mastery of all forms of combat, including even Trakata. Can predict all of Ahsoka's moves long in advance. She's greater in unarmed combat than Tano, and is superior mentally.
Meetra Surik is one of the most legendary Jedi heroes, second only to Revan, above the likes of Nomi Sunrider. She was considered to have greatly surpassed Revan's first summation of her 'great potential', which was enough to afford her half of Revan's forces and become Revan's most trusted ally and general in the Wars, instead of Alek. She is also stated to be a powerhouse of destruction years prior to her prime.
Ahsoka is great, but not immediately dying in contests with Maul and Vader is not single-handedly placing her on a pedestal, not when others far lesser than Surik have accomplished similar.
Originally posted by AncientPower
which was enough to afford her half of Revan's forces and become Revan's most trusted ally and general in the Wars, instead of Alek.
Yet there had been another--a powerful Jedi named Meetra Surik. Meetra had been among the first to fellow Revans cause, and she quickly proved herself to be a brilliant tactician and military leader.
Recognizing her potential, Revan had made her a general, giving her control over nearly half of the Republic and Jedi troops under his command. Meetra had been instrumental in defeating the Mandalorians, dealing them a devastating blow at the battle of Malachor V.
- The Old Republic Revan
While he led his forces against Mandalore's flagship, he ordered his most trusted general to use her fleet as bait to lure the bulk of the Mandalorian ships within range of the Mass-Shadow Generator.
- The Old Republic Revan
"I was told you had been cut off from the Force, but I sense its power in you. I always knew you had great potential, but you've become far greater than I could ever have imagined."
- The Old Republic Revan
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Originally posted by AncientPowerHow did you reach that conclusion?
Grew more powerful than even Traya in the years after Malachor V, when she reached her prime.
She has a technical mastery of all forms of combat, including even Trakata.This isn't necessarily an advantage, it certainly makes her a versatile opponent by I'd argue Ahsoka's performances against Maul and Vader suggest greater mastery over her chosen styles.
Can predict all of Ahsoka's moves long in advance.Can she really though? That sounds like a gross overstatement.
She's greater in unarmed combat than Tano, and is superior mentally.I'll grant you she's a better unarmed combatant, but superior mentally? What's that supposed to mean?
Meetra Surik is one of the most legendary Jedi heroes, second only to Revan, above the likes of Nomi Sunrider. She was considered to have greatly surpassed Revan's first summation of her 'great potential', which was enough to afford her half of Revan's forces and become Revan's most trusted ally and general in the Wars, instead of Alek. She is also stated to be a powerhouse of destruction years prior to her prime.Rather irrelevant considering we can only guess at what esteem Ahsoka would have held if born in the KOTOR era.
That said even as a Padawan she was considered a "Jedi Legend" with "exceptional Jedi skill" regarded as possessing "enormous" potential that saw her granted Padawan status earlier than the norm, and was offered Jedi Knight status at a younger age than Kenobi and Anakin both. So as a prodigy Meetra has no advantages here.
Ahsoka is great, but not immediately dying in contests with Maul and Vader is not single-handedly placing her on a pedestal, not when others far lesser than Surik have accomplished similar.Rather a strawman argument there, and who are these far lesser beings you refer to?
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
The tone of the quotes in the Revan novel might implyotherwise, but nothing you quoted directly contradicts the statements made in KotOR II, so nah.Do you need quotes? I assume you know what I'm referring to.
If you're referring to Hk-47's guesstimates, then no they are contradictory because the above quotes come from Revan direcly, not just other characters guessing as to his goals.
He even dismisses that by Malachor V he was already corrupted by the dark side. No Gnost Dural's inaccurate historian POV doesn't change the fact that clearly Revan, as far as SWTOR Media is concerned, became Darth Revan because of the Sith Emperor.
Those qoutes are the most up to date and come from Revan's own point of view in the novel, far more accurate depictions of his actual designs. Those designs being that Meetra was such a strong Jedi that, above even the likes of Kavar and Alek, she was given command of half of his forces due to her potential. Revan states she far surpassed the 'great potential' he'd seen in her prior.