Originally posted by abhilegend
Sabretooth is so much faster than Wolverine that he could steal his cigar, whisper in his ear and vanish before Wolverine could even react.He is Above Wolverine in every physical aspect. Panther is below Wolverine in almost all physical aspects.
Panther has speed over Wolverine which was shown in the scan I provided earlier that you had no response to,
Once again Spiderman dances around Wolverine, whereas Spiderman compliments Panthers speed for a difference between their speeds. Every other aspect of physicals between Wolverine and Panther I'd say is pretty comparable. Wolverine has a healing factor, Panther has a pretty durable suit, whereas Logan has pretty durable bones.
Healing Factor or strong bones regardless Logan can be KOd which he has before like in AvX where I believe Cap KO's him,
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Once again Spiderman dances around Wolverine
Loses his head and questions his own speed, you mean. Hardly dancing.
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
, whereas Spiderman compliments Panthers speed for a difference between their speeds.
He was referring to Panther's agility specifically. Same agility that Panther used against Wolverine and immediately ended on his butt.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Loses his head and questions his own speed, you mean. Hardly dancing.He was referring to Panther's agility specifically. Same agility that Panther used against Wolverine and immediately ended on his butt.
On his ass like this?
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
The only way Logan tags Parker is if he's not serious or expecting it for some reason. Parker is to fast and strong for Logan as well as accompanied with range abilities.
Don't be ridiculous. Parker has been tagged by far slower enemies, numerous times. He's actually impressed by Wolverine's speed.
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
On his ass like this?
Like this, actually:
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Don't be ridiculous. Parker has been tagged by far slower enemies, numerous times. He's actually impressed by Wolverine's speed.Like this, actually:
Sigh..
1. More recent instance > Ancient scan
2. It's convienent that you broke of the scan to suit your needs..
3. In the full encounter Panther was Dodging Logan several times and it ended with Panther pushing Logan off.
4. Black Panther - "This is just a game" Wolverine - "Any fight worth fighting is worth winning" Panther wasn't as serious.
Panther is faster then Logan it's nothing new.
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Sigh..1. More recent instance > Ancient scan
2. It's convienent that you broke of the scan to suit your needs..
3. In the full encounter Panther was Dodging Logan several times and it ended with Panther pushing Logan off.
4. Black Panther - "This is just a game" Wolverine - "Any fight worth fighting is worth winning" Panther wasn't as serious.Panther is faster then Logan it's nothing new.
That's full scene did not prove your point
Originally posted by Sin I AM
That's full scene did not prove your point
Logan lunged at him to begin with and Panther dodged, Logan lunged again with his claws and Panther dodged. Logan grabs him eventually which is all that was originally provided and Panther kicks him off.
I don't see how that doesn't prove my point, part of a scan was provided with Wolverine already having Panther in a hold with no context. I provided that in the encounter Panther came off as faster. So it backs my point,
Second point the scan is ancient I really hope I don't have to prove that to you,and even more recent scans Panther is shown as faster which I also provided.
Third it didn't end in Logan's favor, Logan was on top but was removed by Panther
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
That just shows Panther has better battle sense for Logan to get distracted in battle like that, on top of that Panther was holding Logan for a while.
Most characters in comics could get distracted like that. It happened when the Void was just about to crush Thor to bits in SIEGE.
Originally posted by Vanguard
Nah. TChalla had things under control.
He wouldn't have if the thing wasn't there. T'Challa was in a losing struggle and would have in short time given up the ghost.
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
1. More recent instance > Ancient scan
Depowered Wolverine vs. KotD Panther is what you want to use? 😉
And old scans are treated with respect on KMC, there are no rules against them.
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
2. It's convienent that you broke of the scan to suit your needs..
No, not really. Don't try that shit with me - you haven't posted the entire scene, either. Classic hypocrisy here.
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
3. In the full encounter Panther was Dodging Logan several times and it ended with Panther pushing Logan off.
Ended with Ben saving Panther's life, more like.
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
4. Black Panther - "This is just a game" Wolverine - "Any fight worth fighting is worth winning" Panther wasn't as serious.
Neither side was fighting for real in the fight you posted, either. Ha.
And what are you suggesting, anyway? That Panther is totally useless when it comes to sparring matches? Maybe he should quit the superhero business, then? Kinda makes sense if we remember how Matt beat the shit out of him.
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Panther is faster then Logan it's nothing new.
Maybe he is. Maybe not. No conclusive evidence, for the time being.
Of course, if we believe Cage's statement about him being faster than DD while powerless, then he's faster than every Marvel street/low meta there is.
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Most characters in comics could get distracted like that. It happened when the Void was just about to crush Thor to bits in SIEGE.He wouldn't have if the thing wasn't there. T'Challa was in a losing struggle and would have in short time given up the ghost.
Logan is a soldier and warrior he should have better battle sense then to get distracted I'm the middle of the battle.
In regards to your second statement that's an assumption which isn't supported either way. I could honestly tell you that Panther would of kicked him off just the same but thats an assumption on my part as well because it wasn't written that way.
Regardless my point was Panther is faster then Logan or more agile and swift which I honestly don't get why that's suprising to some of you people. Logan even says I'm not going to let something like speed get in the way of me getting that prize.
Another and a actual modern instance Wolverine is shocked with how fast Panther is. Then the most recent scan I provided we can see Panther is more agile, that's my point though when it comes to speed Panther is faster
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Depowered Wolverine vs. KotD Panther is what you want to use? 😉And old scans are treated with respect on KMC, there are no rules against them.
No, not really. Don't try that shit with me - you haven't posted the entire scene, either. Classic hypocrisy here.
Ended with Ben saving Panther's life, more like.
Neither side was fighting for real in the fight you posted, either. Ha.
And what are you suggesting, anyway? That Panther is totally useless when it comes to sparring matches? Maybe he should quit the superhero business, then? Kinda makes sense if we remember how Matt beat the shit out of him.
Maybe he is. Maybe not. No conclusive evidence, for the time being.
Of course, if we believe Cage's statement about him being faster than DD while powerless, then he's faster than every Marvel street/low meta there is.
If there's something I forgot to post be my guest I'm not stopping you or making any false statements, just don't be ignorant enough to try to pull off cropped scans and not expect me to check them out.
"Oh my gawd he suggested Panther was useless, what will I ever do".... grow up dude these are fictional characters what is insulting one of them suppose to do to me. How does that prove Panther isn't faster which you've yet to do?
A recent showing has more weight then an ancient scan cause it tells us how these characters are operating atleast to the very moment, wasn't KOTD either..
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Logan is a soldier and warrior he should have better battle sense then to get distracted I'm the middle of the battle.In regards to your second statement that's an assumption which isn't supported either way. I could honestly tell you that Panther would of kicked him off just the same but thats an assumption on my part as well because it wasn't written that way.
Regardless my point was Panther is faster then Logan or more agile and swift which I honestly don't get why that's suprising to some of you people. Logan even says I'm not going to let something like speed get in the way of me getting that prize.
Another and a actual modern instance Wolverine is shocked with how fast Panther is. Then the most recent scan I provided we can see Panther is more agile, that's my point though when it comes to speed Panther is faster
You say my post is an assumption when in fact your claim relies on less evidence. We can see that Panther genuinely thinks he could be killed then when Logan gets distracted he says he needs to pay attention if he wanted to win. It shows me that Wolverine would have killed him had he not been distracted.
Also I'm not arguing the whole battle. Just wanted to address that point.
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
If there's something I forgot to post be my guess I'm not stopping you or making any false statements, just don't be ignorant enough to try to pull off cropped scans and not expect me to check them out."Oh my gawd he suggested Panther was useless what will I ever do".... grow up dude these are fictional characters what is insulting one of them suppose to do to me. How does that prove Panther isn't faster which you've yet to do.
I was referring to a specific moment while talking to you and deathslash - Panther mentioning and wrongly believing in his jungle swiftness making the difference - and posted that particular scene. Nothing compromising in the full scene, unless you nitpick it to shit.
Again, you haven't posted the entire thing either and conveniently forgot to mention the state of each combatant.
Of course they're fictional characters. Yet, you can't help but to post in every Aquaman thread that emerges 😂 So, maybe you should take your own advice, huh? Do grow up 👆
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
You say my post is an assumption when in fact your claim relies on less evidence. We can see that Panther genuinely thinks he could be killed then when Logan gets distracted he says he needs to pay attention if he wanted to win. It shows me that Wolverine would have killed him had he not been distracted.Also I'm not arguing the whole battle. Just wanted to address that point.
Out of curiosity where do you get any of that from?
Panther questions Logan's use of his claws in whats suppose to be a game. All that comes off to me is Panther wondering if Logan is honestly going for the kill.
Then the statement which seems a bit misconstrued by your reexplanation was "If you wish to win keep your mind on the battle" that doesn't sound like Panther would of died if Logan wasn't distracted it just sounds like advice.