Sabretooth vs. Panther

Originally posted by Facee
So? I'm not making a claim. You are. 😕

Am I to look through a whole respect thread for such claims?

Can you at least point out what page they're on.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t509407.html

Every page.

Especially the first.

I presume some base familiarity with characters.

You've been here 11 years but still haven't come across Sabretooth easily taking hits from cage, ms.marvel, rogue, etc?

Originally posted by krisblaze
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t509407.html

Every page.

Especially the first.

I presume some base familiarity with characters.

You've been here 11 years but still haven't come across Sabretooth easily taking hits from cage, ms.marvel, rogue, etc?

I'm wondering how Sabertooth would hurt Panther given his suit absorbs impact and makes it into kinetic energy that can be used offensively.

Originally posted by Facee
I'm wondering how Sabertooth would hurt Panther given his suit absorbs impact and makes it into kinetic energy that can be used offensively.

His suit, as far as I can tell, doesn't.

It never really successfully stops attacks like that.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Sabretooth is so much faster than Wolverine that he could steal his cigar, whisper in his ear and vanish before Wolverine could even react.

He is Above Wolverine in every physical aspect. Panther is below Wolverine in almost all physical aspects.

This

Originally posted by krisblaze
My post came off as much more rude than I intended 😛

His suit, as far as I can tell, doesn't.

It never really successfully stops attacks like that.

I mean Panther took shots from Namor, Ironfist, has tanked explosions and so on. I don't see how he can't tank hits here?

Sabretooth sustained relatively minor wounds after the Blackbird crashed at full speed, lol. Was perfectly conscious and kept fighting Logan, who was looking like a walking skeleton.

Wolverine is supposedly higher than Panther in these physical aspects yet he was owned in two of their three encounters.

In the first fight, he almost killed Panther if not for Ben.

Second encounter wasn't much of a fight; just T'Challa tossing Logan. You do realize Logan saved BP's ass from Dragonman in that arc? 😛

Third, severely depowered Wolverine fought an amped Panther to a stalemate 👆

Originally posted by Facee
Its OK . I'm a lover not a fighter. Even though I'm built like a fighter and have a beautiful face. But enough about me.

I mean Panther took shots from Namor, Ironfist, has tanked explosions and so on. I don't see how he can't tank hits here?

Panther's done really well against Namor, several times, but in say Priest's run where Panther could take hits from Namor he could not take hits from Kraven.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
In the first fight, he almost killed Panther if not for Ben.

Second encounter wasn't much of a fight; just T'Challa tossing Logan. You do realize Logan saved BP's ass from Dragonman in that arc? 😛

Third, severely depowered Wolverine fought an amped Panther to a stalemate 👆

2. Yep. He tossed Logan aside just as easily as Logan threw him to the ground in their first fight.

3. He didn't have a healing factor, that was it. Btw, panther was still holding back through a portion of the fight and Logan really didn't touch him.

Anyway, sabretooth probably splits with panther because he's currently far less ruthless than he was before.

1. Playing around? He was trying to stay alive --- and got his "panther-like" agility countered the very moment he mentioned it.

2. Wolverine has tripped the Mandarin in a similar fashion, I guess I should start using that showing whenever there is a skill or speed debate :v

3. Didn't have a healing factor, was suffering from radiation poisoning and deteriorated health in general. Logan has drawn blood and backhand punched him right in the face.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Iron Fist's not as powerful as those guys though, and Creed's taken a lot from him as well.

Panther's done really well against Namor, several times, but in say Priest's run where Panther could take hits from Namor he could not take hits from Kraven.

Creed has gotten knocked out by fist, no ?

I would also think Namor and fist > Creed as far as hitting is concerned.

Originally posted by Facee
Creed has gotten knocked out by fist, no ?

I would also think Namor and fist > Creed as far as hitting is concerned.

He also hits with adamantium claws. How hard he punches isn't exactly relevant since he never punches.

Originally posted by Vanguard
Wolverine is supposedly higher than Panther in these physical aspects yet he was owned in two of their three encounters.

There's no conclusive evidence Logan is higher than Panther in anything other than weight.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
1. Playing around? He was trying to stay alive --- and got his "panther-like" agility countered the very moment he mentioned it.

2. Wolverine has tripped the Mandarin in a similar fashion, I guess I should start using that showing whenever there is a skill or speed debate :v

3. Didn't have a healing factor, was suffering from radiation poisoning and deteriorated health in general. Logan has drawn blood and backhand punched him right in the face.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
There's no conclusive evidence Logan is higher than Panther in anything other than weight.

You think BP has higher damage soak than Sabertooth?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
You think BP has higher damage soak than Sabertooth?

Of course not.

Originally posted by SamZED
From what I remember some of his memories including fighting skills were missing as well.

Correct, his skill level got somewhat nerfed during Bunn's Wolverine run (the return of Dr. Rot arc)...

And apparently it's only gotten worse during Cornell's, especially at that point of the series, when he hasn't even really started adjusting to the loss of his healing factor.

Originally posted by krisblaze
That was Creed without superpowers.

He also hits with adamantium claws. How hard he punches isn't exactly relevant since he never punches.

Well I think you're wrong on the " he never punches" thing.

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He does punch, but his primary attack is a slashing one.

His piercing/striking feats exceed those of Panther.