Originally posted by abhilegend
But Panther doing the same is "whoa" speed?Logan was holding back trying to fight him as a friend. Its right there in the scan.
That's not being faster than Spidey.
Otherwise Cass cain would be faster than Spidey too. Mr X too.
Agility means dexterity. Speed means reflexes. This is kindergarten stuff.
Nightwing s more agile than Batman. He is not faster than Batman.
And yes, Spidey has said that for Shang Chi and Iron Fist too. None are faster than him.
That's some bullshit. Panther was specifically bragging about his speed and got put in his place.
Wolverine is at least as fast as Panther though. By any measure of feats or statements.
An exclamation from Spider-man or a few dodged claws attacks don't make him faster.
How about you make a thread and we compare feats of speed for both characters?
We all have our problems.
Its "whoa fast" not "whoa speed" please keep up.
Panther has Reflexively dodged strikes from Logan in multiple scans provided in this thread. So far I'm just waiting for the part of Grief that is acceptance on your part.
Logan was going for a kill reason he had his claws out and was trying o strike Panther. There's other friendly in a hit when your trying to kill your opponent. Yet in every encounter Panther has with Logan he sticks to h2h, for some reason when Panther has all this gear at his disposal.
I'd also bring up typically in a fight Dodging brings ones stamina down. Boxing myself I'd add that, am I saying the writers intent was to suggest that? Not at all. Panther getting 5 hits on a guy before getting touched would have me believe he's faster, Panther Dodging most of a guy's hits and only getting touched once would make me believe he's faster. I agree on the most part Spidey in the speed department should be above these guys but statements and context favor Panther. Where Parker questioned his speed in the Logan scan, he actually downright suggested Panther was faster.
Do I think it's an incredible gap that Logan will never touch Panther in a fight? Not at all, but in speed categories Panther has the edge,
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Just because he had claws out? That doesn't mean shit, as he has pinpoint accuracy and control with said claws.
Ironic considering Logan suggested he was "figthing to win" and Panther said this was "just a game".
Given Panther's dialogue for the most part it comes off as Logan trying to kill him, given the Thing's interference it supports that. Ironically alot of you were suggesting that Logan would of ended Panther if it wasn't for The Thing, wouldn't that suggest Logan was going for the kill though by the admission of you guys suggesting he would of ended Panther?
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Ironic considering Logan suggested he was "figthing to win" and Panther said this was "just a game".Given Panther's dialogue for the most part it comes off as Logan trying to kill him, given the Thing's interference it supports that. Ironically alot of you were suggesting that Logan would of ended Panther if it wasn't for The Thing, wouldn't that suggest Logan was going for the kill though by the admission of you guys suggesting he would of ended Panther?
Oh snap! 😛
Spiderman/Black Panther's speed >> Wolverine
Not sure if that's the case were Logan to shave.
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Its "whoa fast" not "whoa speed" please keep up.
I was simply mocking your idea that being able to dodge an attack means somehow faster than someone.
This is Sabretooth's speed compared to Logan.
Do you think Panther can do that?
Panther has Reflexively dodged strikes from Logan in multiple scans provided in this thread. So far I'm just waiting for the part of Grief that is acceptance on your part.
Haha, what? Dodging a few attacks from Logan is a proof of him being faster?
Logan was going for a kill reason he had his claws out and was trying o strike Panther. There's other friendly in a hit when your trying to kill your opponent. Yet in every encounter Panther has with Logan he sticks to h2h, for some reason when Panther has all this gear at his disposal.
Logan doesn't kill heroes. Learn the history of the character.
I'd also bring up typically in a fight Dodging brings ones stamina down. Boxing myself I'd add that, am I saying the writers intent was to suggest that? Not at all. Panther getting 5 hits on a guy before getting touched would have me believe he's faster, Panther Dodging most of a guy's hits and only getting touched once would make me believe he's faster. I agree on the most part Spidey in the speed department should be above these guys but statements and context favor Panther. Where Parker questioned his speed in the Logan scan, he actually downright suggested Panther was faster.
Not because of his speed. He thought maybe Panther was more agile than him. Wanna do a thread against Spider-Man and Black Panther speed?
Do I think it's an incredible gap that Logan will never touch Panther in a fight? Not at all, but in speed categories Panther has the edge,
Not at all. Logan is superior in speed. He actually walk the walk instead of relying on statement.
Originally posted by abhilegend
I was simply mocking your idea that being able to dodge an attack means somehow faster than someone.This is Sabretooth's speed compared to Logan.
Do you think Panther can do that?
Haha, what? Dodging a few attacks from Logan is a proof of him being faster?
Logan doesn't kill heroes. Learn the history of the character.
Not because of his speed. He thought maybe Panther was more agile than him. Wanna do a thread against Spider-Man and Black Panther speed?
Not at all. Logan is superior in speed. He actually walk the walk instead of relying on statement.
Its like your incapable of seeing a scan the Sabretooth scan is impressive but when your incapable of tagging someone or they can get more touches on you then you can get on them then yes your indeed faster. Cry about it as long as you want it doesn't change that fact.
If you can get 2 hits on me before I can get 1 consistently your faster. If you can get 3 hits before I can get 1. If you can get 5 hits before I can even touch you then your faster. That's common sense mate.
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Its like your incapable of seeing a scan the Sabretooth scan is impressive but when your incapable of tagging someone or they can get more touches on you then you can get on them then yes your indeed faster. Cry about it as long as you want it doesn't change that fact.If you can get 2 hits on me before I can get 1 consistently your faster. If you can get 3 hits before I can get 1. If you can get 5 hits before I can even touch you then your faster. That's common sense mate.
Still repeating same thing? Ok. Waste of time with you.
We are not talking about Logan now. Can Panther do that to Logan or not?
Originally posted by abhilegend
😂Still repeating same thing? Ok. Waste of time with you.
We are not talking about Logan now. Can Panther do that to Logan or not?
I suggested Panther was faster then Logan didn't suggest he could zip past him like that, has doing that ever helped Creed in a combat situation against Logan?
See the problem you seem to have is you make implications out of words never suggested. I suggested Panther was faster then Logan I still stand by that, you bring up something irrelevant to what I said about Creed zipping Logan.
If Creed does something like that in a combat situation where he shows he's undoubtedly faster then I'll concede he's faster then Panther
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
I suggested Panther was faster then Logan didn't suggest he could zip past him like that, has doing that ever helped Creed in a combat situation against Logan?
Yes, in the same issue he casually defeated him by slitting his throat before he could react.
See the problem you seem to have is you make implications out of words never suggested. I suggested Panther was faster then Logan I still stand by that, you bring up something irrelevant to what I said about Creed zipping Logan.
All I am seeing is a few statements that suggest Panther is fast. Nothing to suggest he is faster.
He is definitely more agile than Logan. That's not the same as being faster.
If Creed does something like that in a combat situation where he shows he's undoubtedly faster then I'll concede he's faster then Panther
You should read Classic X men.
Hell, it has outright stated that Sabretooth is a step above Logan in every way.
http://i.imgur.com/N2rlaL2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8htLHpw.jpg
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, in the same issue he casually defeated him by slitting his throat before he could react.All I am seeing is a few statements that suggest Panther is fast. Nothing to suggest he is faster.
He is definitely more agile than Logan. That's not the same as being faster.
You should read Classic X men.
Hell, it has outright stated that Sabretooth is a step above Logan in every way.
http://i.imgur.com/N2rlaL2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8htLHpw.jpg
What happened to not relying on statements?
Why don't you post entire fight scenes?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, in the same issue he casually defeated him by slitting his throat before he could react.All I am seeing is a few statements that suggest Panther is fast. Nothing to suggest he is faster.
He is definitely more agile than Logan. That's not the same as being faster.
You should read Classic X men.
Hell, it has outright stated that Sabretooth is a step above Logan in every way.
http://i.imgur.com/N2rlaL2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8htLHpw.jpg
I always saw him more of a brawler not that skilled.
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Originally posted by Facee
I always saw him more of a brawler not that skilled.
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