Originally posted by deathslash
you sure about that? I remember hulk barely managing to keep it off of them, Reed Richards came up with a plan to get them out, Thor was hitting the mountain as hard as he could and it sounded like tapping to everyone underneath it.
He kept an area of it from crushing them, and he said something about leverage, but the way you wrote it came off he lifted the entire thing in the original comic.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
LOL, here comes the super cavalry. For ONCE h1 is trying to be reasonable, creating an AVERAGE considering PCS highs and lows and PrecrISIS sends a member to blow shit up.
The only validity this post has is the topic was about Pre-CRISIS. The feat Rao cited is way better than the SECRET WARS thing and is fairly mundane compared to Superman's other feats of that canon era.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Chaos War Abomination did exactly that.
Abomination was massively amped and defeated Hulk by slashing his throat. He owned a holding back Hulk no doubt, but he didn't punch Hulk unconscious, just to clarify. No high herald or trans beings are punching out WWH. It just ain't happening.
Originally posted by Delta1938
He kept an area of it from crushing them, and he said something about leverage, but the way you wrote it came off he lifted the entire thing in the original comic.
Also, didn't hulk punch through time, casually break adamantium, and help move that rogue planet that hyperion later caught?
Originally posted by deathslash
Yeah, in the original, he didn't lift the whole thing. No lying about that. But he did keep it from crushing them which is surely a very impressive feat, especially for banner's earlier years. In the remake, did he lift the whole thing or just a portion?
He did keep it from crushing them, but "150 billion tons" was on the cover, never actually in the comic. In the comic it does say "beneath billions of tons" but the narration doesn't make it clear how much Hulk is actually supporting. And to my understanding, this version of Hulk was stronger at base than Savage Hulk. In fact, I've seen a few argue that generally this version of Hulk>Savage Hulk without Hulk getting particularly angry.
Originally posted by deathslash
Also, didn't hulk punch through time, casually break adamantium, and help move that rogue planet that hyperion later caught?
Only one I saw was the first, and only scan, so can't really comment.
Originally posted by deathslash
😆 shut up, my damn phone still thinks it knows what words are best for me.
So your phone hates ya? Why I usually don't get on KMC on mine other than checking messages. 😆
Originally posted by deathslash
Yeah, in the original, he didn't lift the whole thing. No lying about that. But he did keep it from crushing them which is surely a very impressive feat, especially for banner's earlier years. In the remake, did he lift the whole thing or just a portion?Also, didn't hulk punch through time, casually break adamantium, and help move that rogue planet that hyperion later caught?
Scans are from Hulks respect thread.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Actually he didn't.Abomination was massively amped and defeated Hulk by slashing his throat. He owned a holding back Hulk no doubt, but he didn't punch Hulk unconscious, just to clarify. No high herald or trans beings are punching out WWH. It just ain't happening.
Thank you, that's what I've been trying to tell precrISIS the entire time. It's not happening.
Originally posted by Delta1938
He did keep it from crushing them, but "150 billion tons" was on the cover, never actually in the comic. In the comic it does say "beneath billions of tons" but the narration doesn't make it clear how much Hulk is actually supporting. And to my understanding, this version of Hulk was stronger at base than Savage Hulk. In fact, I've seen a few argue that generally this version of Hulk>Savage Hulk without Hulk getting particularly angry.Only one I saw was the first, and only scan, so can't really comment.
So your phone hates ya? Why I usually don't get on KMC on mine other than checking messages. 😆
😂 Trying real hard, aren't you? The point is a far lesser version of the Hulk held up billions of tons. This was in response to a poster who claimed WWH was a mere mountain crusher. That's laughably false, and we can move on. Or you can try to pin down how many billions the feat was.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
😂 Trying real hard, aren't you? The point is a far lesser version of the Hulk held up billions of tons. This was in response to a poster who claimed WWH was a mere mountain crusher. That's laughably false, and we can move on. Or you can try to pin down how many billions the feat was.
That's laughable compared to PC characters.
Originally posted by abhilegend
He still had his dynamic factor. What you are doing is applying no limit fallacy at this point.Hulk isn't beating Mongul much less Validus. Forget about it.
Sorry, we don't go by your fanfiction.
You're actually the one that has placed a no limits fallacy. You're basically saying that it would take a character with no limits to defeat Mongul. At this point it's your opinion versus my opinion. The only difference is that I actually have solid proof, whereas you have nothing more than opinion because Mongul was able to own the Legion, and Superman that wasn't actually operating at his utmost best. A fanfic would be me making things up. What I gave you was fact written in a book, and what you did with it was simply refused to accept the fact that Mongul would be crushed against WB Hulk. It actually wouldn't even really last very long TBH. This is based off of the premise that WB Hulk was able to shatter entire solar systems with a punch. Perhaps it's time for people to go back and re0read everything from when the Hulk set foot on Sakaar up until the end of Heart of the Monster. Denial on your part at this point simply means that this is a circular argument that will not be resolved. Thus let's agree to disagree, even though I am 100% correct.
Originally posted by Stoic
You're actually the one that has placed a no limits fallacy. You're basically saying that it would take a character with no limits to defeat Mongul. At this point it's your opinion versus my opinion. The only difference is that I actually have solid proof, whereas you have nothing more than opinion because Mongul was able to own the Legion, and Superman that wasn't actually operating at his utmost best. A fanfic would be me making things up. What I gave you was fact written in a book, and what you did with it was simply refused to accept the fact that Mongul would be crushed against WB Hulk. It actually wouldn't even really last very long TBH. This is based off of the premise that WB Hulk was able to shatter entire solar systems with a punch. Perhaps it's time for people to go back and re0read everything from when the Hulk set foot on Sakaar up until the end of Heart of the Monster. Denial on your part at this point simply means that this is a circular argument that will not be resolved. Thus let's agree to disagree, even though I am 100% correct.
Guys like Mongul, Superman, Validus, etc... start out stronger. They'd kick the crap out of Hulk. Mongul having the hardest time, but he'd probably still win in the end. Looking at his respect thread, he doesn't have any bad showings for that era.
Originally posted by Zack M
1. WW Hulk
2. World Breaker Hulkvs
Originally posted by Zack MYou created the thread and foolishly admit you think it's an outright stomp. FFS. You're not a clever guy are you ?
Guys like Mongul, Superman, Validus, etc... start out stronger. They'd kick the crap out of Hulk. Mongul having the hardest time, but he'd probably still win in the end. Looking at his respect thread, he doesn't have any bad showings for that era.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It was the Green Scar incarnation, yes.CW Abom was strong enough to rip Rick's armor off, though... which was durable enough to withstand adamantium talons from Harpy robots...
But Abom cut Hulk's throat to beat him, correct? He didn't out bench press him. Scans are in order.
