Mongul Sr. Vs Hulk

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Don't tell me what I can't do. I'm calling PC out for what it was. Trying pulling your head out of the past's ass.

If you want to disqualify an entire character because you don't like him and/or what he's done, then you should just stick to threads where you do have a valid opinion.

And I say you don't have a valid opinion here because forum rules instruct us on how to argue characters, and you're dismissing that out of hand. Thus, per forum rules, your opinion is invalid.

Originally posted by Cogito
If you want to disqualify an entire character because you don't like him and/or what he's done, then you should just stick to threads where you do have a valid opinion.

And I say you don't have a valid opinion here because forum rules instruct us on how to argue characters, and you're dismissing that out of hand. Thus, per forum rules, your opinion is invalid.

Remember, you're dealing with someone who when he's losing, tends to go into meltdowns and call everybody who disagrees with him "a bunch of nerds" or gets more explicit, and brings up shit about his life that, even if he's not lying to try to make himself look good, is irrelevant and nobody actually gives a ****.

Originally posted by Cogito
If you want to disqualify an entire character because you don't like him and/or what he's done, then you should just stick to threads where you do have a valid opinion.

And I say you don't have a valid opinion here because forum rules instruct us on how to argue characters, and you're dismissing that out of hand. Thus, per forum rules, your opinion is invalid.

Bullshit, my opinion is valid and I won't be adjusting it to make you feel better. The rules have nothing to do with how I've formulated my opinion so there's not need for you to mention them.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Remember, you're dealing with someone who when he's losing, tends to go into meltdowns and call everybody who disagrees with him "a bunch of nerds" or gets more explicit, and brings up shit about his life that, even if he's not lying to try to make himself look good, is irrelevant and nobody actually gives a ****.

Tough titty. You'll get over it.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Tough titty. You'll get over it.

😆 Not surprised you failed to understand.

Originally posted by Cogito
If you want to disqualify an entire character because you don't like him and/or what he's done, then you should just stick to threads where you do have a valid opinion.

And I say you don't have a valid opinion here because forum rules instruct us on how to argue characters, and you're dismissing that out of hand. Thus, per forum rules, your opinion is invalid.

👆

For the posters that may have missed it, both versions of Hulk win. Unlike Mongul, WWH doesn't have ridiculous, explainable, mind numbing lows like the rest of the overhyped PC characters. There is literally no way for him to beat WWH. WBH vaporizes Mongul and shouldn't even be in the thread.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
For the posters that may have missed it, both versions of Hulk win. Unlike Mongul, WWH doesn't have ridiculous, explainable, mind numbing lows like the rest of the overhyped PC characters. There is literally no way for him to beat WWH. WBH vaporizes Mongul and shouldn't even be in the thread.

You do know Mongul Sr also have no low showings right?

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Unlike Mongul, WWH doesn't have ridiculous, explainable, mind numbing lows like the rest of the overhyped PC characters.

Originally posted by SquallX
You do know Mongul Sr also have no low showings right?

No, I don't know that. Some people have mentioned he does. Even so, dominating Superman loses value when Superman was all over the place with feats way above Mongul and feats way, way below herald status. The whole thing is a cluster**** and it's been defunct.

Originally posted by Cogito
Oh ok, so because some characters have lows, all are invalid. Got it 👆

I didn't say that. I'm saying in the absence of a reasonable explanation, the variance in power level is too wide and on the flip side, the character he's pitted against was portrayed consistently. PC was defunct for a reason.

Originally posted by Cogito
Oh ok, so because some characters have lows, all are invalid. Got it 👆

BAV is cherry picking.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
No, I don't know that. Some people have mentioned he does. Even so, dominating Superman loses value when Superman was all over the place with feats way above Mongul and feats way, way below herald status. The whole thing is a cluster**** and it's been defunct.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
No, I don't know that. Some people have mentioned he does. Even so, dominating Superman loses value when Superman was all over the place with feats way above Mongul and feats way, way below herald status. The whole thing is a cluster**** and it's been defunct.

Originally posted by h1a8
When Mongul dominated Superman, you must assume Superman was at least average. If so then average Superman is far above WWH (not WBH though). So Mongul dominated average PC Superman.

What do you mean "Superman was at least average?"

Originally posted by Zack M
BAV is cherry picking.

Really? Even though I said PC Superman had high highs and low lows, I'm cherry picking? Back that up. Also, find me some low lows for WWH.

DC poster creates said thread and then freaks out when anyone argues for the marvel character. Lol.

Originally posted by quanchi112
DC poster creates said thread and then freaks out when anyone argues for the marvel character. Lol.

It happens over and over again. Thing is, there is pretty good consensus, but the hardliners won't relent.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Thing is, there is pretty good consensus, but the hardliners won't relent.

Originally posted by deathslash
You played dragon's dogma too?

Yep awesome game, just hope the online one comes to the west, and the consoles.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's Superboy too.

Bullshit.

I would like to see where it was stated that PC Superboy, as in the one that was killed ramps up his strength at will. The Hulk during his adventure on Sakaar was trained to meditate and raise his strength at will, and do so instantly. This was seen when he was in the Dark Dimension <-- (Solid Proof). Validus had a hard limit to his strength. Based on feats alone, I believe that WB Hulk would beat the mess out of Validus, he would also be able to take any punishment until he rose well above Val's strength level. How? Well that just happens to be his power set, like flight is one of Superman's. You seem to want to make this about Superboy, and if so that is well within your choice/s, however I'm not talking about Superboy, but instead Mongul who has never shown the power to replicate the damage that WB Hulk was capable of, and actually showed the reader on panel. I count collateral damage even if others choose to turn a blind eye to it because if I were to follow suit, then I guess that it'd be just fine for me to ignore lifting feats as well since they are both within the same vein in terms of strength feats. To solidify my stance, I am going to reiterate the fact that WB Hulk had no hard limit to his strength and was able to punch an entire solar system out. Shared feat? Let's go back and see exactly how a Red Hulk's power worked. They drain power from their opponents and add it to their own. They had a limit to the amount of power that they could drain however because they would suffer from overheating. The reason that Red She Hulk did not have a melt down was due entirely from that Wishing Well's properties which allowed her to continue growing in power as WB Hulk continued to ramp up, so in actuality Betty's extra power was due to WB Hulk ramping up as she was now able to keep pace with him. I have solid proof that this was the case.

For one, The Wishing Well never actually changed how any of the characters powers worked. Two, if we were to go back and see what happened to Rulk when he faced off against both Savage Hulk, and Thor, we see that he actually had a hard limit to the amount of power that he could actually drain. Betty had the exact same power set, which was given to her from the very same source that Rulk got his power from, and they both had the very same problems with their powers in terms of the dangers of draining opponents. All of this was written in stone and has gone down as canon as far as Red Hulk's go.