DC vs. Marvel: Four on Four Fight

Originally posted by Delta1938
Actually, no. Your prior argument was this.

You literally argued you're "pretty sure" Blue Marvel has telepathic resistance for the same reason Superman does. Anything but a concession that you're incorrect will be clear backtracking. Blue Marvel, even if he has comparable willpower, doesn't have a Kryptonian brain.

By the way, you're accepting those scans purely as they are. No explanation for how it was done. In a topic regarding Superman's telepathic resistance, about willpower, here's how you replied.

When someone asked how Superman can resist insane telepathy, you said--

You previously had dismiss Superman resisting via willpower as "****ing stupid" basically, and while you did say you'd accept things about his brain being different, here, you're just taking scans showing Blue Marvel resisting something without explanation as is because it's white knighting you from the corner you were backed into.

Oh, and here's how you said about people blindly accepting things without explanation.

Anything but a concession here will prove you're defending a blatant double standard you've shown.

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Do you think you can actually tell me what I meant by my own statement? If so, you're and idiot unworthy of my time. The very fact that you had to EDIT my words is indicative of what a pussy debater you are.

First off, no where in this entire godforsaken thread did I say anything about Blue Marvel's physiology being similar to Superman's. That would be YOU who suggest that, sir. "For the same reason" is my reference to him being a FLYING BRICK CHARACTER, not specifically Kryptonian. So the genesis of your whining is all because of a false ASSUMPTION on your part. What a **** up you are.

I even gave examples of other heralds who are resistant to mind control:

Listen you dumb **** Kryptonian beaver asses, almost all elite level flying brick characters in comics are strongly resistant to mind control. None of you can deny that this is usually the case so you can cut the bullshit act. It makes practical sense or else mind control would be there goal of every villian they encounter. On top of this, Blue Marvel, they guy that makes you shake in your fabulous red knee high boots, had demonstrated exotic uses of his anti-matter manipulation, comparable to Black Bolt IMO. Black Bolt can fortify his mind against mind control, so I'm theorizing that Blue Marvel could uses his EP in a similar fashion. Listen you dumb **** Kryptonian beaver asses, almost all elite level flying brick characters in comics are strongly resistant to mind control. None of you can deny that this is usually the case so you can cut the bullshit act. It makes practical sense or else mind control would be there goal of every villian they encounter. On top of this, Blue Marvel, they guy that makes you shake in your fabulous red knee high boots, had demonstrated exotic uses of his anti-matter manipulation, comparable to Black Bolt IMO. Black Bolt can fortify his mind against mind control, so I'm theorizing that Blue Marvel could uses his EP in a similar fashion.

Now, do you see any reference whatsoever in this quote or any other quote that directly suggests Blue Marvel has physiology similar to Kryptonians? No you don't. Furthermore, I even gave examples of herald level characters who are resistant to mind control, only one of which are Kryptonian!

Don't play bullshit semantics with me. I acknowledged there was not hard proof from the very beginning, so there is no burden of proof to speak of. The reason you are arguing with me is because you think he doesn't have mind control resistance, even though cohorts in their tier all do- Silver Surfer, Superman, Hulk, Wonderwoman, Black Bolt, Thor, etc. Maybe one day he'll encounter a psi trying to control him, but in the absence of hard proof, I made a reasonable guess based on the information that's available that being the typical characteristics of his power tier. Don't like it? Don't care because like I said, you can't prove he doesn't. Now if you're done crying, we can move on and then Marvel team wins.

Your busted. That's Silver Surfer, Hulk, Wonderwoman, Black Bolt, Thor.- since when are any of them Kryptonian? You asked earlier why I called you a liar, well this is just the latest example. The fact is YOU took it wrong and instead of you relenting, you'd rather tell yourself that I backtracked, even though that clearly is not the case. You are showing signs of narcissism and unfortunately for you, therapy is often ineffective for personality disorders. Then again, you could just be stupid. You'd have to be to think you could get away with that lie when evidence to the contrary is in plain sight. You'll have do a better cut and past job next time.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Golf club?

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Hal was scared and needed to think fast, guess that's what came to mind,

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Delta and Abhi don't have legit arguments. RAO is no even trying to make an argument, he's just being the ass clown he is day after day. Delta can't concede a lost point like a man so he following me around like he's trying to wear me down.

Hi Mr. Pot!!

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
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Do you think you can actually tell me what I meant by my own statement? If so, you're and idiot unworthy of my time. The very fact that you had to EDIT my words is indicative of what a pussy debater you are.

First off, no where in this entire godforsaken thread did I say anything about Blue Marvel's physiology being similar to Superman's. That would be YOU who suggest that, sir. "For the same reason" is my reference to him being a FLYING BRICK CHARACTER, not specifically Kryptonian. So the genesis of your whining is all because of a false ASSUMPTION on your part. What a **** up you are.

I even gave examples of other heralds who are resistant to mind control:

Listen you dumb **** Kryptonian beaver asses, almost all elite level flying brick characters in comics are strongly resistant to mind control. None of you can deny that this is usually the case so you can cut the bullshit act. It makes practical sense or else mind control would be there goal of every villian they encounter. On top of this, Blue Marvel, they guy that makes you shake in your fabulous red knee high boots, had demonstrated exotic uses of his anti-matter manipulation, comparable to Black Bolt IMO. Black Bolt can fortify his mind against mind control, so I'm theorizing that Blue Marvel could uses his EP in a similar fashion. Listen you dumb **** Kryptonian beaver asses, almost all elite level flying brick characters in comics are strongly resistant to mind control. None of you can deny that this is usually the case so you can cut the bullshit act. It makes practical sense or else mind control would be there goal of every villian they encounter. On top of this, Blue Marvel, they guy that makes you shake in your fabulous red knee high boots, had demonstrated exotic uses of his anti-matter manipulation, comparable to Black Bolt IMO. Black Bolt can fortify his mind against mind control, so I'm theorizing that Blue Marvel could uses his EP in a similar fashion.

Now, do you see any reference whatsoever in this quote or any other quote that directly suggests Blue Marvel has physiology similar to Kryptonians? No you don't. Furthermore, I even gave examples of herald level characters who are resistant to mind control, only one of which are Kryptonian!

Don't play bullshit semantics with me. I acknowledged there was not hard proof from the very beginning, so there is no burden of proof to speak of. The reason you are arguing with me is because you think he doesn't have mind control resistance, even though cohorts in their tier all do- Silver Surfer, Superman, Hulk, Wonderwoman, Black Bolt, Thor, etc. Maybe one day he'll encounter a psi trying to control him, but in the absence of hard proof, I made a reasonable guess based on the information that's available that being the typical characteristics of his power tier. Don't like it? Don't care because like I said, you can't prove he doesn't. Now if you're done crying, we can move on and then Marvel team wins.

Your busted. That's Silver Surfer, Hulk, Wonderwoman, Black Bolt, Thor.- since when are any of them Kryptonian? You asked earlier why I called you a liar, well this is just the latest example. The fact is YOU took it wrong and instead of you relenting, you'd rather tell yourself that I backtracked, even though that clearly is not the case. You are showing signs of narcissism and unfortunately for you, therapy is often ineffective for personality disorders. Then again, you could just be stupid. You'd have to be to think you could get away with that lie when evidence to the contrary is in plain sight. You'll have do a better cut and past job next time.

😆 Meltdown Achieved. Backtracking and mental gymnastics abound.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
The difference between me and you is I'm capable of actually looking at a scan and accepting what's on the page, I don't make up BS or say "Nuh Uh"
https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/wonder-woman-vs-green-lantern-5.jpg

Wonder Woman's arms are being held down that's what the scan shows don't be stupid.

hysterical

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Wait.... Someone is claiming Wondy used her sword to overpower Hal's construct here?

hysterical

It's amazing what biased eyes see. 🤓

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Wait.... Someone is claiming Wondy used her sword to overpower Hal's construct here?

hysterical

Same guy to claim Hal isn't a strength character to suggest the reason why he has weak durability and that Superman sending Hal flying across a City is comparable to Superman breaking the Earth under people's feet.

Despite all that we see is Superman's cape, he sent them flying according to Ahbi even though if you notice Superman's arms Batman and Green Arrow practically stayed in the same position. Only notable characters here were fine which are Wonder Woman and Martian Manhunter they don't seem backed up or anything.

Compare that to Wonder Woman backing Hal up with a stomp.

Yet according to Ahbi any High tier can indirectly send another High tier flying atleast in this thread they can, he has yet to provide any examples though.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Hi Mr. Pot!!

😆 Meltdown Achieved. Backtracking and mental gymnastics abound.

Fresh outta lies, huh? Your ego wants you to continue but that lima bean in your skull can't keep up. It's refreshing to know that I broke you despite your super human ability to bullshit. If you weren't such a pathetic little piss ass you would have simple said "Hey, Mr. Vet, when you drew the comparison to Superman, I ASSUMED you meant they had similar physiology; however, upon further examination of the text, it's clear that you were making reference to the typical characteristics of the power tier. In fact, I see now you made no mention of physiology at all. That's my mistake."

That's what a man with integrity does diva. I'm sorry you didn't learn that at home growing up. When you make a mistake, you don't ignore it, you don't deny it, you don't pout and you certainly don't try to prove you were right in the face of contrary evidence and make yourself look foolish and stubborn. I'm only telling you this because there is a possibility you really don't know what integrity is. It's more likely you are simply an ass hat, though.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Fresh outta lies, huh? Your ego wants you to continue but that lima bean in your skull can't keep up. It's refreshing to know that I broke you despite your super human ability to bullshit. If you weren't such a pathetic little piss ass you would have simple said "Hey, Mr. Vet, when you drew the comparison to Superman, I ASSUMED you meant they had similar physiology; however, upon further examination of the text, it's clear that you were making reference to the typical characteristics of the power tier. In fact, I see now you made no mention of physiology at all. That's my mistake."

That's what a man with integrity does diva. I'm sorry you didn't learn that at home growing up. When you make a mistake, you don't ignore it, you don't deny it, you don't pout and you certainly don't try to prove you were right in the face of contrary evidence and make yourself look foolish and stubborn. I'm only telling you this because there is a possibility you really don't know what integrity is. It's more likely you are simply an ass hat, though.

Not really. Even if I gave you the benefit of the doubt that you meant what you're arguing now(and looking at what you actually wrote, I have to say you're just backtracking) it still doesn't change the fact that the scans shown for Blue Marvel have no explanation as to why he's resisting, so willpower is the only reason that makes sense going by those scans, and you have previously argued not only is willpower a bullshit reason to resist telepathy, but screamed that you don't blindly accept things in comics without explanation. You bragging about those scans is contradicting both of what you did before. Something you didn't acknowledge.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
The difference between me and you is I'm capable of actually looking at a scan and accepting what's on the page, I don't make up BS or say "Nuh Uh"

Are you? Because for last ten pages you are looking at a simple scene and getting flustered when someone spells it out for you.

Wonder Woman's arms are being held down that's what the scan shows don't be stupid.

Yes, and she is swinging her sword arm to break out of it. Her left arm is stationary. That's not how you flex.

This is how you flex out of constructs.

As you're so fond of big images.

I'm aware Hal hits her never suggested he didn'tm the difference is it doesn't do any of the same damage her hits have done to her, she doesn't bleed and she doesn't go flying. Theyre not comparable. If that was the case Superman wouldn't have felt the need to stop Diana rather then Hal.

Of course she goes flying when he tackles her.

Wonder Woman was acting irrational, hence Superman was trying to stop her.

It's a classic stalemate. She only drew blood with a surprise hit and a sword attack. All the other attacks were just as ineffective as Hal's.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Wait.... Someone is claiming Wondy used her sword to overpower Hal's construct here?

hysterical

And as insane as ever.

😂

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Same guy to claim Hal isn't a strength character to suggest the reason why he has weak durability and that Superman sending Hal flying across a City is comparable to Superman breaking the Earth under people's feet.

Despite all that we see is Superman's cape, he sent them flying according to Ahbi even though if you notice Superman's arms Batman and Green Arrow practically stayed in the same position. Only notable characters here were fine which are Wonder Woman and Martian Manhunter they don't seem backed up or anything.

Compare that to Wonder Woman backing Hal up with a stomp.

Yet according to Ahbi any High tier can indirectly send another High tier flying atleast in this thread they can, he has yet to provide any examples though.

Tell me how Superman was on a hill though. That was a classic.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Oh look who is here.

And as insane as ever.

😂

Originally posted by abhilegend
Are you? Because for last ten pages you are looking at a simple scene and getting flustered when someone spells it out for you.

Yes, and she is swinging her sword arm to break out of it. Her left arm is stationary. That's not how you flex.

This is how you flex out of constructs.

As you're so fond of big images.

Of course she goes flying when he tackles her.

Wonder Woman was acting irrational, hence Superman was trying to stop her.

It's a classic stalemate. She only drew blood with a surprise hit and a sword attack. All the other attacks were just as ineffective as Hal's.

Both her arms are being held by the construct. It's like trying to swing a sword when your hands are handcuffed. Difference is the construct wasn't strong enough. Your aware you can flex with one arm right? Regardless both arms were changed in position.

Are you honestly comparing tackling someone to hitting them and them going flying? She weighs under 300 lbs being able to push her by flying into her should be possible. I'm saying he can't send her flying via a physical strike.

The only 2 times Wonder Woman hit Hal directly he bled. Other then that in the whole fight it was indirect. She came off better in the fight you just happen to be the one person blind to it.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Oh look who is here.

And as insane as ever.

😂

Wow, a preemptive attack. Is cele renting that much space in your mind?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
facepalm
Stop kidding yourself.
Not even Rao or Delta would agree with you.

I don't know. But We can all agree that you are white knighting BAVsy. 😛

LMAO!!! Abby, are you effing serious??? She was RESTRAINED with her arms down. She couldn't swing her are unless she popped the restraint. What you are seeing is her follow through once the weak ass construct was broken. Are you really risking the sliver over credibility you have on his? I hope everyone is seeing this because this could be top ten all time.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
I don't know. But We can all agree that you are white knighting BAVsy. 😛

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Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Hey. I'm just here to find truths..

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You know the truth. Some posters here don't know much about comics and are looking for a sense of belonging. That's why we have the Red and Blue gang.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
facepalm
Stop kidding yourself.
Not even Rao or Delta would agree with you.

That's your crutch.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Both her arms are being held by the construct. It's like trying to swing a sword when your hands are handcuffed. Difference is the construct wasn't strong enough. Your aware you can flex with one arm right? Regardless both arms were changed in position.

Yes, and she broke the construct by swinging the sword and cutting through it. Not flexing it as you said.

Are you honestly comparing tackling someone to hitting them and them going flying? She weighs under 300 lbs being able to push her by flying into her should be possible. I'm saying he can't send her flying via a physical strike.

But Hal weighs several hundred tons I suppose.

Yes, he isn't as strong as her. Yet he sent her flying with a tackle.

The only 2 times Wonder Woman hit Hal directly he bled. Other then that in the whole fight it was indirect. She came off better in the fight you just happen to be the one person blind to it.

One was with the surprise and one was with a sword.

He was the one who got the last shot. She didn't come better in that fight. Not at all.

You can continue for 50 more pages repeating the same shit and it wouldn't make a lie truth.