Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, and she broke the construct by swinging the sword and cutting through it. Not flexing it as you said.But Hal weighs several hundred tons I suppose.
Yes, he isn't as strong as her. Yet he sent her flying with a tackle.
One was with the surprise and one was with a sword.
He was the one who got the last shot. She didn't come better in that fight. Not at all.
You can continue for 50 more pages repeating the same shit and it wouldn't make a lie truth.
Your not sending someone flying when your tackling them.... your simply moving them along with you....
Aquaman has tackled Parralax Hal and Sentinel Alan Scott it honestly means jack shit in terms of strength. Hell in the cartoons Batman has flipped Superman. These are characters that don't weigh more then 300 lbs. You and me should be able to tackle Diana and move her...
And for crying out loud the only reason Noone is defending you, is some of the lengths you go to with this BS is incredibly stupid. If you were handcuffed do you think you could swing a sword as freely as Diana is doing in the pictures. It's worse because Diana's arms are being held down not her hands..
Follow your own advice.... irony at its finest...
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Your not sending someone flying when your tackling them.... your simply moving them along with you....
But he just tackled her and seethes flying. Regarding how he does not has superstrength, that's honestly more impressive.
Aquaman has tackled Parralax Hal and Sentinel Alan Scott it honestly means jack shit in terms of strength. Hell in the cartoons Batman has flipped Superman. These are characters that don't weigh more then 300 lbs. You and me should be able to tackle Diana and move her...
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Are you really this ignorant? If moving someone is really that unimpressive, why are you arguing Wonder Woman stomping and sending Hal away as impressive for last ten pages?
Moving someone through strength is always impressive. Comics don't work on weight principles, they work on strength principle. The stronger someone is, it's more difficult for someone to move them if they are braced.
And for crying out loud the only reason Noone is defending you, is some of the lengths you go to with this BS is incredibly stupid. If you were handcuffed do you think you could swing a sword as freely as Diana is doing in the pictures. It's worse because Diana's arms are being held down not her hands..
I don't need someone to white Knight me kid. Her arms aren't handcuffed, they are sandwiched between the construct and her side.
She swings the sword and cleaves through the construct. If you had any brain you could see why she is swinging only one arm.
Keep digging though. I will see it to the end.
Follow your own advice.... irony at its finest...
Shut up already with your constant whining.
Originally posted by abhilegend
But he just tackled her and seethes flying. Regarding how he does not has superstrength, that's honestly more impressive.😐
Are you really this ignorant? If moving someone is really that unimpressive, why are you arguing Wonder Woman stomping and sending Hal away as impressive for last ten pages?
Moving someone through strength is always impressive. Comics don't work on weight principles, they work on strength principle. The stronger someone is, it's more difficult for someone to move them if they are braced.
I don't need someone to white Knight me kid. Her arms aren't handcuffed, they are sandwiched between the construct and her side.
She swings the sword and cleaves through the construct. If you had any brain you could see why she is swinging only one arm.Keep digging though. I will see it to the end.
Shut up already with your constant whining.
Do you really think tackling someone us comparable to punching them and sending them flying or stomping on the ground and moving them.
I don't find it impressive because I can tackle Diana, I can tackle anyone who weighs less 250 pr less and they'll move. What I can't do however is stomp on the ground and send someone flying, or punch someone and send them several feet to yards away.
It's ridiculous that that had to be explained.
Even if Wonder Woman's arms are being sandwiched together she still needed to move the arm shes carrying the sword in to move the construct is the point. If your being restrained in a phyiatric vest and your hands are free but your arms are tightened to your body is basically the analogy. Wonder Woman didn't have a problem shattering ant of Hal's constructs or sending him flying. Hal can't send Wonder Woman flying via a physical strike.
But continue see if I'll stop stating this how many times I'll have to. I'm a strong believer in the No child left behind policy so I'll stick with you until you finally get this.
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Do you really think tackling someone us comparable to punching them and sending them flying or stomping on the ground and moving them.
Yes, it seems you're too hung up on the "stomp" as a word at this point.
Enlighten us how these two are different oh wise guy.
I don't find it impressive because I can tackle Diana, I can tackle anyone who weighs less 250 pr less and they'll move. What I can't do however is stomp on the ground and send someone flying, or punch someone and send them several feet to yards away.
Go ahead and post the proof of such a ridiculous stance. I'll wait for it.
It's ridiculous that that had to be explained.
Maybe I'm not too versed in comicvine language but here "I can do this too" isn't a proof.
Maybe on comicvine it is. Who knows?
Even if Wonder Woman's arms are being sandwiched together she still needed to move the arm shes carrying the sword in to move the construct is the point. If your being restrained in a phyiatric vest and your hands are free but your arms are tightened to your body is basically the analogy. Wonder Woman didn't have a problem shattering ant of Hal's constructs or sending him flying. Hal can't send Wonder Woman flying via a physical strike.
Yes, she moved the Arm and sliced through the construct with the sword. You are acting like the sword remained stationary while she broke the construct with just arm movement. Then why did her left arm was stationary as I recall you said that she flexed and broke the constructs.
But continue see if I'll stop stating this how many times I'll have to. I'm a strong believer in the No child left behind policy so I'll stick with you until you finally get this.
We will see how many times you can enjoy being wrong, won't we then
This is going to be fun.
Abby, stop LYING about scans. How the hell could she slice through the construction when her arm and the sword are pointed downward!? And secondarily, where is the visual evidence that slicing occurred? What we see is a construct in the process of shattering. She could not swing a sword in that position without first moving her arm! It's sad you are this desperate to protect the weakness of GL constructs as well as Superman's superiority over Diana. If this was Superman, you'd have no problem accepting that the construction was shattered. Diana broke the construct with strength, the sword was simply in her hand at the time the construction was applied to her. Please, find someone who is fool enough to agree with you on this.
Originally posted by abhilegend
I don't need someone supporting me.That's your crutch.
@Ecstatic
Request a bz on that point. Watch him tuck tail and run faster than a speeding bullet. He's used to it.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, it seems you're too hung up on the "stomp" as a word at this point.Enlighten us how these two are different oh wise guy.
Go ahead and post the proof of such a ridiculous stance. I'll wait for it.
Maybe I'm not too versed in comicvine language but here "I can do this too" isn't a proof.
Maybe on comicvine it is. Who knows?
Yes, she moved the Arm and sliced through the construct with the sword. You are acting like the sword remained stationary while she broke the construct with just arm movement. Then why did her left arm was stationary as I recall you said that she flexed and broke the constructs.
We will see how many times you can enjoy being wrong, won't we then
This is going to be fun.
I've tried to enlighten you several times on why they're different, your just to dim.
But here's for the 50th.
1.) When Wonder Woman hits Hal he goes flying several yards away; When Hal hits Wonder Woman she just turns her head.
2.) (Don't give me a BS excuse that Hal wasn't ready or etc, when you trap or encase someone, your goal is to restrain them/ If Superman held Diana's arms down do you think she would of broke free as easily?) The sad thing is Diana didn't break out of Hal's constructs not once but twice.
3.) The first construct was made to lock her in, the second time it was more secure then that because let's give Hal some credibility and say that he thinks fast that he wanted to pin Diana's arms down. To swing a sword you need your arms to move freely by the way, I don't get what you don't understand about that.
4.) No Herald class character has been moved as badly as Hal was with a stomp on the ground. Diana stomps the shockwave goes this way > Hal's body goes >
5.) She broke out of his constructs twice but she broke his constructs 3 times.
6.) The original fight I posted isn't even the whole fight in the whole fight Superman tries to jump in and save Hal by trying to calm down Diana but he gets kicked away.
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
I've tried to enlighten you several times on why they're different, your just to dim.
Oh the simpleton thinks others are dim. How novel!!!
But here's for the 50th.
1.) When Wonder Woman hits Hal he goes flying several yards away; When Hal hits Wonder Woman she just turns her head.
He hits her and she flies away as well. In the very next panel, they are farther away than when Diana stomped Hal.
2.) (Don't give me a BS excuse that Hal wasn't ready or etc, when you trap or encase someone, your goal is to restrain them/ If Superman held Diana's arms down do you think she would of broke free as easily?) The sad thing is Diana didn't break out of Hal's constructs not once but twice.
Don't start that BS with me boy. Hal wasn't ready for a fight. If you really think he was going to fight her, you are dimmer than I thought.
Yes, she sliced the constructs with a sword. How impressive.
3.) The first construct was made to lock her in, the second time it was more secure then that because let's give Hal some credibility and say that he thinks fast that he wanted to pin Diana's arms down. To swing a sword you need your arms to move freely by the way, I don't get what you don't understand about that.
First time it was a mere precautionary attempt. Second time she literally swung to break the construct.
I will hammer it for fifty more pages if it takes that long for you to understand that.
4.) No Herald class character has been moved as badly as Hal was with a stomp on the ground.
Oh really? Superman just sent entire Justice League flying with a stomp.
B-but Superman was on a hill. That was under the same writer BTW.
Diana stomps the shockwave goes this way > Hal's body goes >
Just like Hal sent her flying with a tackle.
5.) She broke out of his constructs twice but she broke his constructs 3 times.
6.) The original fight I posted isn't even the whole fight in the whole fight Superman tries to jump in and save Hal by trying to calm down Diana but he gets kicked away.
He wasn't trying to save Hal. Here is the full fight.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-iPNFbI8AdNQ/UwnpqOIIgTI/AAAAAAAAnrA/ODUr47i5l1M/s1600/p11_8.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wflswA_TXqo/Uwnpqc9OwpI/AAAAAAAAnrE/WH3Mgd3Jibs/s1600/p11_9.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jN0EKR6_6nY/UwnpfngeHsI/AAAAAAAAnoA/FZRXs8trJag/s1600/p11_10.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0otJ9hntgHM/Uwnpf7jSg_I/AAAAAAAAnoI/n3vVubRaeeE/s1600/p11_11.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rZw0ElWjsHo/UwnpfmC6tUI/AAAAAAAAnoE/kkJ1TRSFreA/s1600/p11_12.jpg
It was a classic stalemate. To use this as a means to lowball Hal and Orion is simply pathetic.
Here is how Orion deals with Hal.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/20319000/3778532.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/20319001/9612545.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/20319002/4765973.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/20319002/4765973.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/20319003/3075285.jpg.html
And Hal and Mogo together.
This is not a proof of Hal being weak, it's an example of how Beastly Orion is.
You can take your hater ass back to comicvine where it belongs.
Class dismissed.
Looks like someone was underestimated. Welcome to kmc Ecstatic.
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Oh and...
Originally posted by abhilegend
Oh the simpleton thinks others are dim. How novel!!!Yes, she sliced the constructs with a sword. How impressive.
First time it was a mere precautionary attempt. Second time she literally swung to break the construct.
I will hammer it for fifty more pages if it takes that long for you to understand that.
abhidur
Originally posted by abhilegend
Oh the simpleton thinks others are dim. How novel!!!He hits her and she flies away as well. In the very next panel, they are farther away than when Diana stomped Hal.
Don't start that BS with me boy. Hal wasn't ready for a fight. If you really think he was going to fight her, you are dimmer than I thought.
Yes, she sliced the constructs with a sword. How impressive.
First time it was a mere precautionary attempt. Second time she literally swung to break the construct.
I will hammer it for fifty more pages if it takes that long for you to understand that.
Oh really? Superman just sent entire Justice League flying with a stomp.
B-but Superman was on a hill. That was under the same writer BTW.
Just like Hal sent her flying with a tackle.
Not with strength. She used the sword as a cutting tool.He wasn't trying to save Hal. Here is the full fight.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-iPNFbI8AdNQ/UwnpqOIIgTI/AAAAAAAAnrA/ODUr47i5l1M/s1600/p11_8.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wflswA_TXqo/Uwnpqc9OwpI/AAAAAAAAnrE/WH3Mgd3Jibs/s1600/p11_9.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jN0EKR6_6nY/UwnpfngeHsI/AAAAAAAAnoA/FZRXs8trJag/s1600/p11_10.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0otJ9hntgHM/Uwnpf7jSg_I/AAAAAAAAnoI/n3vVubRaeeE/s1600/p11_11.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rZw0ElWjsHo/UwnpfmC6tUI/AAAAAAAAnoE/kkJ1TRSFreA/s1600/p11_12.jpg
It was a classic stalemate. To use this as a means to lowball Hal and Orion is simply pathetic.
Here is how Orion deals with Hal.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/20319000/3778532.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/20319001/9612545.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/20319002/4765973.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/20319002/4765973.jpg.htmlhttp://www.turboimagehost.com/p/20319003/3075285.jpg.html
And Hal and Mogo together.
This is not a proof of Hal being weak, it's an example of how Beastly Orion is.
You can take your hater ass back to comicvine where it belongs.
Class dismissed.
The fact that you think you proved a point by posting a bunch of stuff to show Hal operating below Herald tier is sad.
A stalemate is when neither character is getting the better of the other. Wonder Woman operated better in her fight against Hal "Class Dismissed" cute catchphrase by the way.
All you did when you posted the Hal vs Wonder Woman fight was prove the 6 point system that I made. The scans you posted show Diana making Hal bleed twice, Hal not doing the same room Diana. Diana sending Hal flying twice, Hal not doing the same. Etc
Speaking of Orion, Wonder Woman actually stalemated her (Off Panel)
This is before any upgrades to Wonder Woman, no God Mode, No God of War.
Pay attention to the word play.
Orion: "All right, no more fighting" Translates to Okay I don't want to fight no more, your good.
Wonder Woman: "Your really making it hard for me not to jump at you again" Translates to I can keep going.
Compared to.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/20319201/9971793.jpg.html
Orion: "I expected more, honestly" Translates to we're not comparable.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/20319003/3075285.jpg.html
Orion: Outright states it here in the scan provided by Abhi.
Diana and Hal aren't comparable, there's enough to show Wonder Woman is above Hal in the New52 atleast that is.
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Speaking of Orion, Wonder Woman actually stalemated her (Off Panel)This is before any upgrades to Wonder Woman, no God Mode, No God of War.
Haha, what? The fight never even happened. Different writers, different portrayals of character. Orion in godhead was much more powerful than in Wonder Woman.
Pay attention to the word play.
Orion: "All right, no more fighting" Translates to Okay I don't want to fight no more, your good.
Wonder Woman: "Your really making it hard for me not to jump at you again" Translates to I can keep going.
That's nice. Now show us where she actually fought him.
Compared to.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/20319201/9971793.jpg.html
Orion: "I expected more, honestly" Translates to we're not comparable.http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/20319003/3075285.jpg.html
Orion: Outright states it here in the scan provided by Abhi.
Yes, Godhead is a very different depiction by a different writer who views new gods very highly.
Diana and Hal aren't comparable, there's enough to show Wonder Woman is above Hal in the New52 atleast that is.
So much higher that they had to shield her so that she doesn't gets killed.
And that's Hal, not John. She is tossed away by mere shockwave of the blast while GLs shield everyone from the blast.
I expect some slinking away from you. Coming in 3.2......
Originally posted by abhilegend
Haha, what? The fight never even happened. Different writers, different portrayals of character. Orion in godhead was much more powerful than in Wonder Woman.That's nice. Now show us where she actually fought him.
Yes, Godhead is a very different depiction by a different writer who views new gods very highly.
So much higher that they had to shield her so that she doesn't gets killed.
And that's Hal, not John. She is tossed away by mere shockwave of the blast while GLs shield everyone from the blast.
I expect some slinking away from you. Coming in 3.2......
Looks questionable in all honesty. Not suggesting the shockwave doesnt send her flying because I can see her feet lifted off the ground but there's no proof that this solar flare's shockwave would of did any significant damage to Diana. All this suggest is that the constructs withstood a shockwave that can send Wonder Woman flying. Which is an improvement to the very least.
John comes off more impressive given I believe he's actually containing the blast. Whereas Hal is protecting Diana from the shockwave of a contained blast.
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Looks questionable in all honesty. Not suggesting the shockwave doesnt send her flying because I can see her feet lifted off the ground but there's no proof that this solar flare's shockwave would of did any significant damage to Diana. All this suggest is that the constructs withstood a shockwave that can send Wonder Woman flying. Which is an improvement to the very least.
Why would Hal even shield her if she wasn't in danger?
John comes off more impressive given I believe he's actually containing the blast. Whereas Hal is protecting Diana from the shockwave of a contained blast.
Now John is more impressive than Hal, eh?
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But what else can be expected from a guy who thinks planets can weigh as much as buildings.
Mass doesn't equate to weight so we cant say how much Superboy is really moving all we know is that their planets we don't know how much force is actually being exerted for all we know the planets can weigh buildings.
http://herochat.com/index.php?topic=9390.msg197374#msg197374
I didn't know you were this.........brilliant.
Now I know better.
