Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Are you ****ing retarded? Can you read simple words on a page? Get the **** out of my face and stop wasting my time. I reduced you to trolling, live with that.
It's not trolling. You're either wrong, or lying about it. The burden of proof lies on you, simple as that. If you've got no examples of Blue Marvel actually resisting telepathy, then everything you've argued is assumption, end of story.
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Your logic is Diana was covered in a weak sauce energy construct equating to she had to be saved..
Weak sauce? Bases on what exactly? Yes, she had to be saved.
How does this counter the fact she was stomping Hal. It honestly doesn't.
She wasn't stomping Hal. He took everything she threw at him and returned the favor.
Fact is Hal's never been beaten as bad as he was against opponents of that tier Pre-Flashpoint whether it be Superman, Wonder Woman or Orion he's usually faired better.
Superman is more powerful than his pre-flashpoint version. Wonder Woman is too. Orion got a very high showing where a single new God was beating entire Lantern corps.
Nu52 seems to be different though.
Yeah, lets get this ass backward. Hal got randomly depowered when Superman and Wonder Woman are the ones who got powered up.
But Yeah J'onn could of phased like he did against the Justice League in the JLA issue or like he did when Aquaman lunged at him, he could of TP'd any of them, He could of changed his density.
See, this is why everyone mocks comicvine. These characters aren't power sets.
I'm not ignoring that he's been beaten physically am I though? I'm not looking at scans and going "Lalallalaala I can't see them".the same Zod that beat up Superman to mention as well.
After tag teaming with Faora before that which injured Superman.
Regardless of his physical fights again MMH has the second best strength feat in the New52 and during Trinity War was doing fine against Wonder Woman something Hal can't claim to have done in the New52.
A shared feat with Superman doesn't means he got the second best feat.
Hal did better than J'onn against Diana.
If Hal had better showings of harming people with his constructs or his constructs had better durability I wouldn't judge him so harshly. I'll give him the fact that he made Superman bleed with a construct attack though that was first move and Superman clearly had the last couple.
It matters little how you judge Hal. You are inconsequential in this regard.
What I'm hung up on is Constructs don't seem to be as powerful as they were against Heralds is all I'm saying
That's why they have to save wonder woman and look more durable than her?
Wonder Woman has gotten an amp since her fight against Hal where she did better whereas Hal had that Renegade thing going but that didnt last.
She did not do better. Not in any rational way.
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
In regards to the solar flare. I find it hard to believe a construct would take other better then Diana would given she can take Rao's heat vision up close which was suggested as more powerful then Superman's and lasted longer given he was fueled by several lives.
Why would her taking a single HV blast from Rao and then shielding herself mean she can take a solar flare from an amped Superman?
Originally posted by Delta1938
It's not trolling. You're either wrong, or lying about it. The burden of proof lies on you, simple as that. If you've got no examples of Blue Marvel actually resisting telepathy, then everything you've argued is assumption, end of story.
Again, you're a ****ing moron in addition to being a dick head. I said it was an assumption from the beginning and I've alluded back to that fact several times. The fact that you are repeating yourself is a sign of concession. There is no where else for you to go, so you choose to troll rather than accept that reality that I never promised proof in the first place. My assumption remains the same. Now what's next for you, another round of brain farts?
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Again, you're a ****ing moron in addition to being a dick head. I said it was an assumption from the beginning and I've alluded back to that fact several times. The fact that you are repeating yourself is a sign of concession. There is no where else for you to go, so you choose to troll rather than accept that reality that I never promised proof in the first place. My assumption remains the same. Now what's next for you, another round of brain farts?
Is this how i sound when i go off on a tangent?
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Again, you're a ****ing moron in addition to being a dick head. I said it was an assumption from the beginning and I've alluded back to that fact several times. The fact that you are repeating yourself is a sign of concession. There is no where else for you to go, so you choose to troll rather than accept that reality that I never promised proof in the first place. My assumption remains the same. Now what's next for you, another round of brain farts?
So now you go from pushing your assumption as "No Blue Marvel will be fine" and making arguments to justify that assumption, to trying to justify that you have nothing is me trolling. Gotcha.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Weak sauce? Bases on what exactly? Yes, she had to be saved.She wasn't stomping Hal. He took everything she threw at him and returned the favor.
Superman is more powerful than his pre-flashpoint version. Wonder Woman is too. Orion got a very high showing where a single new God was beating entire Lantern corps.
Yeah, lets get this ass backward. Hal got randomly depowered when Superman and Wonder Woman are the ones who got powered up.
See, this is why everyone mocks comicvine. These characters aren't power sets.
After tag teaming with Faora before that which injured Superman.
A shared feat with Superman doesn't means he got the second best feat.
Hal did better than J'onn against Diana.
It matters little how you judge Hal. You are inconsequential in this regard.
That's why they have to save wonder woman and look more durable than her?
She did not do better. Not in any rational way.
Returned in favor how, when did Hal make Wonder Woman bleed like she did to him twice. The first being a backhand.
Yes there weak constructs Wonder Woman flexed out of them at the end of the encounter.
Diana didn't draw blood from MMH twice or send him flying twice so define better?
Yeah the shared feat would be the second best strength feat a New52 character has mainstay on Earth atleast. But I'm curious to hear you explain it's not that impressive cause I'm sure whatever you say will contradict a future post.
Same Zod and Faora that Wonder Woman bested together?
In regards to Hal got depowered I'm glad to see you type it must of been hard to do. I'll add that Wonder Woman's powerup came way after beating up Hal,
I'm aware it doesn't matter what in comic panel proof I provide of Hal's sonctructs being destroyed or Wonder Woman manhandling him. You interpret comics in a way the writer didn't write it so theirs obviously not much I can do.
You backtrack and contradict yourself as well. Which users have brought up here. Pretty sure this thread is the first time you've suggested Wonder Woman was Superman tier.
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Returned in favor how, when did Hal make Wonder Woman bleed like she did to him twice. The first being a backhand.
Yes, she backhanded him when he wasn't expecting it and then slashed him with a sword.
Yes there weak constructs Wonder Woman flexed out of them at the end of the encounter.
Not flexed, shattered via the sword.
Diana didn't draw blood from MMH twice or send him flying twice so define better?
J'onn wasn't also able to shield Diana from Superman's solar flare.
In regards to Hal got depowered I'm glad to see you type it must of been hard to do. I'll add that Wonder Woman's powerup came way after beating up Hal,
You are taking it like new 52 Wonder Woman was as powerful as pre flaspoint Wonder woman. No, she was more powerful than her from start.
I'm aware it doesn't matter what in comic panel proof I provide of Hal's sonctructs being destroyed or Wonder Woman manhandling him. You interpret comics in a way the writer didn't write it so theirs obviously not much I can do.
Wonder Woman never manhandled him though. Under the same writer, his constructs were more durable than her. I like how you try to slink away from that anyway you can.
You backtrack and contradict yourself as well. Which users have brought up here. Pretty sure this thread is the first time you've suggested Wonder Woman was Superman tier.
Haha, seriously?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, she backhanded him when he wasn't expecting it and then slashed him with a sword.Not flexed, shattered via the sword.
J'onn wasn't also able to shield Diana from Superman's solar flare.
You are taking it like new 52 Wonder Woman was as powerful as pre flaspoint Wonder woman. No, she was more powerful than her from start.
Wonder Woman never manhandled him though. Under the same writer, his constructs were more durable than her. I like how you try to slink away from that anyway you can.
Haha, seriously?
More durable then Diana based on some sully notion that covering someone in GL aura means your protecting them from something they couldn't take, that's an assumption that you can't support with anything. Yet I can break it down with Wonder Woman's fight against Hal.
Diana was more powerful then Pre-Flashpoint Wonder Woman from the start how? Instead of making up stuff just accept when your wrong cause this hole you keep digging is getting ridiculous.
Flexed is what she did , Hal had her hands tied down with his construct to be able to move she outmuscled it.
Hal also tried to restrain Diana he simply couldn't. That's the reason he got backhanded and sent flying away, if his constructs were stronger maybe he would of had a chance of actually subduing her...
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
More durable then Diana based on some sully notion that covering someone in GL aura means your protecting them from something they couldn't take, that's an assumption that you can't support with anything. Yet I can break it down with Wonder Woman's fight against Hal.
Why sully? Diana couldn't survive a less powerful solar flare without getting koed.
Diana was more powerful then Pre-Flashpoint Wonder Woman from the start how? Instead of making up stuff just accept when your wrong cause this hole you keep digging is getting ridiculous.
She was closer to Superman post Flashpoint than Pre Flashpoint.
You want to argue that as well?
Flexed is what she did , Hal had her hands tied down with his construct to be able to move she outmuscled it.
No, she did not.
https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/wonder-woman-vs-green-lantern-5.jpg
She is breaking the constructs with the sword.
Hal also tried to restrain Diana he simply couldn't. That's the reason he got backhanded and sent flying away, if his constructs were stronger maybe he would of had a chance of actually subduing her...
He didn't have any reason to believe she was going to attack him at first.
After that? Only the sword shattered the constructs.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Pretty sure he's done it before, but not feeling like browsing through his many "feats" in dozens of threads now.If he's in his 40s, then I'm J. Lo 😛
Personally, I haven't seen it, is all I'm sayin'.
You gave me great reason to post this.
