Dreadnought vs Star Destroyer

Started by Jmanghan16 pages

Originally posted by Nai
Psst. Sissy112 doesn't like "nerd math"*.

*translating into: "math". He also isn't fond of logic, abstract thinking and thinking in general.

In all honesty, Quan's not a bad guy, though he does like to troll on versus forums.

Except when it comes to Voldemort in the Movie VS subforum.

Originally posted by Nai
Psst. Sissy112 doesn't like "nerd math"*.

*translating into: "math". He also isn't fond of logic, abstract thinking and thinking in general.

Witqhout official numbers it's just spectimastion.

Based off logic, abilities, portrayal, and common sense I'm right. Evidence supports me. The executor is very slow in a combat situation and is a sitting target to the Vengeance. It decimates the deflector shields and then brings down the oversized piece of shit.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Witqhout official numbers it's just spectimastion.

Maybe you want to activate your brain cells (assuming there are multiple ones) before posting.

And, no, it is not "just speculation". This is what you are not getting into your head. One can calculate stuff based on the things we see on screen. There is no speculation involved.

One can calculate the energy needed to vaporize an asteroid of a certain size. Fact.
One can conclude that the shields of the Millenium Falcon, which are hit by that aforementioned firepower, have a certain strength in order to ensure the ship isn't destroyed. That can be calculated. Fact.
From those instances, we can just powerscale weapon / shields.


Based off logic, abilities, portrayal, and common sense I'm right. Evidence supports me. The executor is very slow in a combat situation and is a sitting target to the Vengeance. It decimates the deflector shields and then brings down the oversized piece of shit.

Yeah. I've noted once before that you are based rather far off logic and common sense and, because of that, pretty damn wrong.

And the Executor or the Star Destroyer can be an immobile target. It doesn't matter when it packs enough firepower to annihilate something like the Vengeance or the Enterprise with a single volley, while the opposite ship will never make it through the shields.

Originally posted by Nai
Maybe you want to activate your brain cells (assuming there are multiple ones) before posting.

And, no, it is not "just speculation". This is what you are not getting into your head. One can calculate stuff based on the things we see on screen. There is no speculation involved.

One can calculate the energy needed to vaporize an asteroid of a certain size. Fact.
One can conclude that the shields of the Millenium Falcon, which are hit by that aforementioned firepower, have a certain strength in order to ensure the ship isn't destroyed. That can be calculated. Fact.
From those instances, we can just powerscale weapon / shields.

Yeah. I've noted once before that you are based rather far [b]off logic and common sense and, because of that, pretty damn wrong.

And the Executor or the Star Destroyer can be an immobile target. It doesn't matter when it packs enough firepower to annihilate something like the Vengeance or the Enterprise with a single volley, while the opposite ship will never make it through the shields. [/B]

If you can't verify it with an official source then yes it is. Need speculation based off fictional universes which don't cohesively make sense because they aren't based off realism and are pure fantasy.

You do not know the size and the density of the asteroids so it's speculation and that's just assuming they didn't have it completely blow up due to the limitations of the special effects at the time. The MF are more durable than asteroids due to the shields. I've never said otherwise. The shielding is what matters. When the Enterprise is shielded we see massive explosions with the shielding up. That's far more impressive than hardly any damage done when a star destroyer hits the MF multiple times.

No, I am pretty damn right and have been consistent the entire time unlike yourself who just things based off bias not objective analysis.

Based off what showings of the Executor destroying what ship in a single volley ? See this is where your bias shows up again. Give me some examples. I mean for ****s sake we don't just say things without any evidence as to back our claims.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If you can't verify it with an official source then yes it is. Need speculation based off fictional universes which don't cohesively make sense because they aren't based off realism and are pure fantasy.

You are undermining the very idea of having a debate where the two universes clash then, because they are "pure fantasy" coming from two different sources and hence, can't compared in any sense. Good job, stupid. You just cancelled your own Battlezone.


You do not know the size and the density of the asteroids so it's speculation and that's just assuming they didn't have it completely blow up due to the limitations of the special effects at the time. The MF are more durable than asteroids due to the shields. I've never said otherwise. The shielding is what matters. When the Enterprise is shielded we see massive explosions with the shielding up. That's far more impressive than hardly any damage done when a star destroyer hits the MF multiple times.

You don't know the durability of the Enterprises hull.
You don't know the power of the Enterprises shield.
You don't know that stuff for the Vengeance.

And, thanks: So the shields don't protect the Enterprise at all just as the new movie shows, while a Star Destroyer can take several minutes worth of enemy fire or hours of flying through an asteroid field. Gosh. That is certainly more impressive, ay mate? Thanks for punching yourself in the face.


No, I am pretty damn right and have been consistent the entire time unlike yourself who just things based off bias not objective analysis.

You've been consistent in your trolling stupidity. Get off the forum, clownchi112.


Based off what showings of the Executor destroying what ship in a single volley ? See this is where your bias shows up again. Give me some examples. I mean for ****s sake we don't just say things without any evidence as to back our claims.

No. This is where your thickheaded stupidity shows, you rather poor excuse for an intelligent lifeform. By your logic, the Executor doesn't have weapons, because it doesn't fire a shot. Hell. Most people in movies don't have brains because we don't see them. I think you can relate. 👆

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, I didn't I just killed your theoretical nonsense type debating. It isn't evidence based its hey I came up with these calculations based off this tiny dot explosion in the background. It's ridiculous and desperate. Be a man and accept the challenge.

I know a shielded ship is more durable than an unsheilded ship. That goes for both universes. We see the asteroids are easily destroyed but is a shielded MF ?

We do know the Vengeance unshielded can withstand 72 torpedoes aboard the ship. We see the Executor couldn't withstand one ship crashing into it with the shields down. 🙂

The shields do protect the enterprise but the power of the attacks does massive damage to the shields and the ship at the same time. The same can't be said for the laughable star destroyers when attacking the MF.

Why would I leave ? Tell you what accept my challenge in this battlezone and the loser leaves for one month. Come on man if you're so much better kick me off the Star Wars board altogether for one month. Be a man for once and back up all your posturing.

Executor does have weapons but you made a claim it destroys the Vengeance in one volley without any evidence to suggest such a thing. Again bias. You're a troll and not a very good one at that. You also lack testicles take me on in a judged debate because your ridiculous conjecture will be torn to shreds.

Loser leaves the Star Wars section for a month. Do you accept ?

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