Originally posted by NaiSays the nerd who made countless claims he failed to prove. Speculative, biased nonsense. If you make the claim the onus is on you to prove it not for me to disprove it. Debating 101.
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Originally posted by NaiSays the nerd who made countless claims he failed to prove. Speculative, biased nonsense. If you make the claim the onus is on you to prove it not for me to disprove it. Debating 101.
You're welcome.
Originally posted by ZenwolfThe blasts were clearly doing damage and you can't prove how much they were lowered or even that they were lowered at all. It's about what you can prove and it goes against the dialogue of the scene.
Jeez, does it have to be stated each time someone goes to the bathroom too? Seriously?Vader wants the Falcon right?....Common sense would tell anyone, that under orders from Vader, they were to not destroy the ship and thus...they wouldn't blast it with full powered turbolasers.
Originally posted by ZenwolfIy is ironic when I say common sense somehow it isn't so common but here it is. We can tell by the suspense of the scene and the dialogue IMO. There's no direct evidence or anything alluding to let's lessen the intensity of our weapons here. I see your point but it isn't anything you can prove. So we go by what we know. The Destroyer fired upon the MF and it took multiple shots without significant damage.
Aside from common sense and dialogue stated by Vader he wanted them alive?No, but then I don't need to have every little detail thrown out.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Iy is ironic when I say common sense somehow it isn't so common but here it is. We can tell by the suspense of the scene and the dialogue IMO. There's no direct evidence or anything alluding to let's lessen the intensity of our weapons here. I see your point but it isn't anything you can prove. So we go by what we know. The Destroyer fired upon the MF and it took multiple shots without significant damage.
Because of the Deflector shields. 3PO says as much.
"Sir we've just lost the main rear deflector shield! One more direct hit on the back quadrant and were done for!"
Originally posted by ZenwolfYes, as I said the shields from a much weaker ship can withstand blasts from much more powerful and larger ships without taking significant damage. That isn't the case in Star Trek when a superior ship such as the Narada or the Vengeance starts firing on the Enterprise. That's always been my point. Shit gets ****ed up really fast.
Because of the Deflector shields. 3PO says as much."Sir we've just lost the rear deflector shield! One more hit on the back quadrant and were done for!"
Except why then, in ANH were TIE fighters able to cause damage to the Falcon despite the shields being up? TIE Fighters pack much less punch than an ISD, you'd agree on that right? Ok then.
So this just furthers shows that if a TIE fighter can break through the Falcon's shields and cause damage, then a full powered Turbolaser shot would have punched right through the shield and destroy the Falcon.
Yet...the ISD didn't do that.
Originally posted by ZenwolfI agree a tie fighter can get through the shields as can a star destroyer but it isn't nigh instantaneous like it is when the big bad ships in Star Trek start firing. The big bad ships in two films of Trek would skull **** the imperial ships. The only advantage the empire ever had was numbers but due to Star Trek Beyond that advantage is going away. I'm going based off what we see on screen not theoretically.
Except why then, in ANH were TIE fighters able to cause damage to the Falcon despite the shields being up? TIE Fighters pack much less punch than an ISD, you'd agree on that right? Ok then.So this just furthers shows that if a TIE fighter can break through the Falcon's shields and cause damage, then a full powered Turbolaser shot would have punched right through the shield and destroy the Falcon.
Yet...the ISD didn't do that.
Originally posted by Time-ImmemorialYeah, the Falcon isn't some top of the line ship it's the shitty ship the heroes have to pilot through situations due to facing overwhelming odds. It's even referred to as basically shit in the Force Awakens in terms of quality ships.
Semantics. Comparing the Dreadnaught shields to the aged and falling apart falcon is just laughable. The falcon is held together because it's a plot device vital to the story.