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I Choose Violence
Pretty much what I said. But please, do continue telling me how I know nothing while making statements that contradict factual evidence. thumb up
Also, I'm going to need proof, not your conjecture, that Surik's drain is somehow unique from the actual description of Drain that also applies to the Dark Reaper;
None of that dictates how the machine works. Does it draw the force energy of everything around it at once? Is it targeted, drawing the energies of the strongest Force Users first? Can it be tricked by simply masking one's presence in the force, is that how Qel-Droma deceives it? The fact that any of those statements are even a possibility proves that applying Vader's resistance to drain to every form of drain is nothing more than a fallacy.
The fact is, the Jedi Council had encountered Drain before. The Dark Reaper crisis occurred during the lifetimes of Masters Vrook, Zez Kai-Ell and Kavar. Yet all these esteemed and knowledgable Jedi failed to apply the widely known Jedi counter to the Dark Reaper against Traya. All the Jedi who fell to the assassins of the Triumvirate failed to apply the well known Jedi "counter to force drain". They all died, after being fed upon.
Surik's drain is linked entirely to her Force Wound, and the technique of the Sith to feed on the Jedi that is described as new (despite being prevalent in previous Empires) is also linked to her, and Malachor.
"It has left a hole, a hunger that cannot be filled. In you we saw a wound in the force, in you we saw the end of the force [...] It is the teaching of these new Sith, to feed on others, on other force sensitives. They are systematic of the wound in the force. You are a breach that must be closed. [...] Within you we see something worse than merely the teachings of the Sith.
Traya was talking about herself not being able to defend against Nihilus' Sever Force, not drain. Besides, you're using a rather large no limit fallacy here. I am to assume now that Meetra can drain every single Force user she fights? Yoda? Palpatine? The Ones? The Bedlams? Is there a limit? There obviously is one, and currently her limit is sub-Vader scrubs, so I doubt that'll make a change in this fight.
lmao wat.
"This technique blinds your enemy to the Force with a wall of light, a permanent blockage if you so choose, rendering him unable to use Jedi powers. It is difficult. And it is the most devastating attack possible using the powers of the light side. To block a Jedi from the Force—even a Dark Jedi—is a terrible thing."
Nihilus wall of light confirmed. Nihilus the true paragon of Dark and Light. Move over Revan, you fugging wannabe.
Sever force. Lmao.
Yes, Nihilus' drain isn't standard drain, and perhaps it encompasses some of the sphere that encompasses Sever Force, but his technique was not cutting her off from the force, that is not how he works. He fed from her like he fed from everyone else, and the fact you're suggesting that Nihilus' drain is uniques, but the Exile's is not (when they are precisely the same thing) is clinically retarded.
Oh, and yes, she'd probably be able to drain Yoda, Palpatine and potentially even The Ones, on the presumption they don't decide to ragdoll her. Krayt managed to drain Abeloth just fine, despite being infinitely inferior to her. Drain has no defense, that's kind of the point, higher tier beings can simply deal with it far more effectively.
Traya, Nyriss, Sion, etc. They were, indeed, barely affected by it. And even Nihilus, someone who's magnitude sh!ts on Meetra's, couldn't kill a non-Force sensitive during combat with his passive Force Drain, so why Surik can make a big change against Vader via her passive Drain is beyond me.
****ing lmao you listed Nyriss. This is why I don't take you seriously. The Exile healed her wound years before fighting Nyriss, it's why she was significantly less impressive than during The Dark Wars.
As for Sion and Traya, give me a quote that suggests they weren't affected, please. They're sitting on a "colossal geyser of Dark Side Energy", of course they'd be able to shrug off Drain more effectively than on neutral ground.
Finally, no, Nihilus' drain killed everyone in his immediate vicinity, he simply kept the crew of his ship alive through his own energies. He needed them alive. As for Mandalore, the only explanation of his survival is the symbiotic link he has with the Exile, he was able to replenish through her whatever Nihilus passively stole.
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