Originally posted by Selenial
None of that dictates how the machine works. Does it draw the force energy of everything around it at once? Is it targeted, drawing the energies of the strongest Force Users first? Can it be tricked by simply masking one's presence in the force, is that how Qel-Droma deceives it? The fact that any of those statements are even a possibility proves that applying Vader's resistance to drain to every form of drain is nothing more than a fallacy.
>gives a quote stating exactly what the machine does
>still questions what the machine does
The same questions you asked about the Force Harvester can be asked about drain.
Originally posted by Selenial
The fact is, the Jedi Council had encountered Drain before. The Dark Reaper crisis occurred during the lifetimes of Masters Vrook, Zez Kai-Ell and Kavar. Yet all these esteemed and knowledgable Jedi failed to apply the widely known Jedi counter to the Dark Reaper against Traya. All the Jedi who fell to the assassins of the Triumvirate failed to apply the well known Jedi "counter to force drain". They all died, after being fed upon.
That's funny because it's stated that after the war against the Dark Reaper, all of it's secrets were lost and weren't re-discovered until the PT era. So that's how none of the masters can defend against it.
Originally posted by Selenial
Surik's drain is linked entirely to her Force Wound, and the technique of the Sith to feed on the Jedi that is described as new (despite being prevalent in previous Empires) is also linked to her, and Malachor.
So wait, if Surik can only Drain because of her being a wound(how does that make it unique?), then why are we even discussing this? This is suppose to be novel Meetra, is it not?
Originally posted by Selenial
Nihilus wall of light confirmed. Nihilus the true paragon of Dark and Light. Move over Revan, you fugging wannabe.Sever force. Lmao.
Sever force isn't exclusive to only Jedi lmao. Then there's the fact that Nihilus has been stated as knowing Severe Force and that's exactly what happened; he didn't drain Traya of her life energies, he severed her from the Force. So again, do continue calling me an idiot whilst you contradict factual evidence 👆
Originally posted by Selenial
Yes, Nihilus' drain isn't standard drain, and perhaps it encompasses some of the sphere that encompasses Sever Force, but his technique was not cutting her off from the force, that is not how he works. He fed from her like he fed from everyone else, and the fact you're suggesting that Nihilus' drain is uniques, but the Exile's is not (when they are precisely the same thing) is clinically retarded.
Ever hear of a strawman? Because you're using one. I never said Nihilus' Drain is unique, but rather more potent. How am I suppose to take you seriously if you don't even read an argument properly?
Originally posted by Selenial
Oh, and yes, she'd probably be able to drain Yoda, Palpatine and potentially even The Ones, on the presumption they don't decide to ragdoll her. Krayt managed to drain Abeloth just fine, despite being infinitely inferior to her. Drain has no defense, that's kind of the point, higher tier beings can simply deal with it far more effectively.
Krayt drained an Abeloth who wasn't defending from him but was more focused on Luke and wasn't even that damaged by it, IIRC, and while Hett was amped. And Krayt is vastly superior to Surik in power, so not the best comparison, hon.
Originally posted by Selenial
****ing lmao you listed Nyriss. This is why I don't take you seriously. The Exile healed her wound years before fighting Nyriss, it's why she was significantly less impressive than during The Dark Wars.
I was under the impression Surik had Drain not just because of her Wound, so apologies. But seriously, you can't really yell at me about getting something wrong when you both couldn't read my argument properly and are grasping at straws for the Force Harvester. But like I said: why are we taking this into account when it's suppose to be novel Meetra?
Originally posted by Selenial
As for Sion and Traya, give me a quote that suggests they weren't affected, please. They're sitting on a "colossal geyser of Dark Side Energy", of course they'd be able to shrug off Drain more effectively than on neutral ground.
Even on that "massive geyser of Dark Side Energy", Sion shouldn't be comparable to Vader, like, at all.
Originally posted by Selenial
Finally, no, Nihilus' drain killed everyone in his immediate vicinity, he simply kept the crew of his ship alive through his own energies. He needed them alive. As for Mandalore, the only explanation of his survival is the symbiotic link he has with the Exile, he was able to replenish through her whatever Nihilus passively stole.
So Mandalore survived because of his Force Bond with Meetra? Do you have any proof there was a Bond to begin with, or is that more of your conjecture?