Meetra Surik vs. Darth Vader

Started by Selenial13 pages
Originally posted by The_Tempest
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Sidious wanted dominance. Vitiate wanted everyone dead.

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We're gonna have a long talk later, young lady!

Their goals were different. Vitiate posed a bigger threat in regards to the life of every being in the galaxy, whereas Sidious wants to dominate with his Empire and have absolute control. Very different contexts.

Yeah, also even if Sidious was more powerful, Vitiate was more powerful relative to everyone around him.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Yeah, also even if Sidious was more powerful, Vitiate was more powerful relative to everyone around him.

Yep. There isn't an individual in TOR who can straight up defeat him [yet], as opposed to the PT where there are at least 3 individuals Sidious fears. 👆

Originally posted by The Ellimist
"full power' Meetra got ragdolled by Nihilus, who is weaker than Revan Reborn, who has far inferior feats to Marek. 👆

...the hell?

You use quotes to assert Revan's superiority over Nihilus, then feats to assert Marek's superiority over Revan...yet by feats Nihilus lolshits on Galen.

Pulling fleet out of the gravity wells of Malachor V > Galen.

Eating worlds for breakfast > Galen.

Nexus boi

Gravity well boiiiiiii

Plus Traya still lost to Meetra on said nexus, who was, "more powerful" than Meetra to begin with IIRC.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Ah, Zoltan, assumptions to the last.

Did you play the video game? I'm going to guess otherwise. Not that it matters, because I have an entire list of Galen's lightning feats.

I asked for Carthage and/or Myth to provide something Galen/Vader did in terms of Force combat. Which was why I stated that using Force feats outside of such circumstances isn't relevant to my argument nor do they serve as sn even slightly effective counter.

Moreover, not to 'humiliate' you in turn or anything, because I couldn't give a shit about this forum's obsession with dick measuring contests in the slightest. You clearly didn't understand what I was evidencing. In the other thread, Fresh stated I'd provided no evidence for Meetra having strong Force defense showings. Thus the post you quoted as evidence of some 'double-standards', was a general post to make evident of how powerful Meetra actually was. Given Carthage treats Atris like a 'featless' doormat, I thought it prudent to substantiate a feat of Atris', in an attempt to show otherwise.

You can go back to being irrelevant to the debate now, good boy.

Begging the question isn't "asking" for feats, considering multiple posters aside from myself have posted examples of Vader beating down force users with greater feats than Atris, Sion, etc. You keep blathering on about how Traya is "comparable" to any of the individuals I listed in previous posts, or how Atris moving a door is some ****ing marvel but couldn't respond to the fact that none of those individuals would last a minute. So yes, don't be surprised everyone is calling you out for the awful debater you are 👆

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Gravity well boiiiiiii

Meh. We don't know how strong the gravity well was, but it probably wasn't enough to make up for the nexus. Vjun, which I'm pretty sure is weaker than Malachor, can put Dooku above Vader, kek.


Plus Traya still lost to Meetra on said nexus, who was, "more powerful" than Meetra to begin with IIRC.

OK, so? We're talking about Nihilus here. Traya's best feat is killing no namers.

It doesn't matter, Nihilus did that before he devoured a planet of Jedi and force sensitives as well as several other worlds. He'd be far more powerful than he was on Malachor after that.

Originally posted by Selenial
Sidious wanted dominance. Vitiate wanted everyone dead.

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Originally posted by Petrus
Their goals were different. Vitiate posed a bigger threat in regards to the life of every being in the galaxy, whereas Sidious wants to dominate with his Empire and have absolute control. Very different contexts.

Palpatine's endgame was to essentially absorb the universe into his own ego.

Vitiate is small potatoes.

Where in all those pages is this stated?

The idea is that you read all of them to find out. 🙂

Vitiate's endgame was to be God, so I'm not seeing how that's so much different.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
The idea is that you read all of them to find out. 🙂

But I won't because I'm too lazy. 🙂

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLrpBLDWyCI

It's right in the beginning, The Apotheosis of Palpatine starting on page 10. It goes into how Palpatine gets immortality, how he planned to replace the Moffs, Grand Moffs, governers etc with Dark Adepts. Then he would consume those Adepts as the Adepts themselves consume others, until finally every last sentient being would be consumed within Palpatine.

By then Palpatine would transcend above humanity and become more a force of nature.

He'd then go on to conquer other galaxies.

He'd also get a new title.

God-Emperor and would have created a galaxy in where all life is an extension of himself.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
It's right in the beginning, The Apotheosis of Palpatine starting on page 10. It goes into how Palpatine gets immortality.

And here's where Palaptine falls short of Vititate