Originally posted by Selenial
Ngl, AP's right, the idea that Vader would ragdoll is beyond clinically retarded.
Your palpable obsession with Meetra aside, she is visibly weaker than Nyriss, who in turn essentially gets one-shotted by Revan Reborn, who is weaker than Vader, so yeah, she probably does get one-shotted.
I mean, what game do you want to play here? Accolades? Feats? *Eyes Galen Marek respect thread* Neither is gonna do you any good.
Atris can't even penetrate her defenses, nevermind ragdoll Meetra. Amped Traya can't ragdoll Meetra on a massive geyser of dark side energy, despite telekinetically flattening the High Council without gesturing. An Amped Nyriss could temporarily put a hindered Meetra down, who was using only an indtinctive barrier, with Bane tier lightning.
I'd mention Nihilus placing Meetra in statis but he's far beyond Vader in the first place. If Traya and Nyriss, two Sith approaching Vader in power, if not equating him, couldn't just ragdoll a hindered Meetra. Vader fugging isn't.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Atris can't even penetrate her defenses, nevermind ragdoll Meetra. Amped Traya can't ragdoll Meetra on a massive geyser of dark side energy, despite telekinetically flattening the High Council without gesturing. An Amped Nyriss could temporarily put a hindered Meetra down, who was using only an indtinctive barrier, with Bane tier lightning.I'd mention Nihilus placing Meetra in statis but he's far beyond Vader in the first place. If Traya and Nyriss, two Sith approaching Vader in power, if not equating him, couldn't just ragdoll a hindered Meetra. Vader fugging isn't.
Lol, nyriss and Traya are not Vader level.
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
AP lowballs Galen when trying to shit on Vader, but doesn't when she wanks Shaak. Interesting mmm
I'm not lowballing or shitting on anyone, so you can end that Legend brand of hypocrisy right there.
Galen Marek has never had particularly impressive Force defenses against actual Force users. So using him is completely irrelevant to someone with better defensive showings in Force combat than him. Rahm Kota and Kazdan Paratus both come to mind immediately.
But considering what I just posted above, you've got nothing more than a psuedo-fallacious comparison to Galen Marek to go off.
Here's the golden nugget: You've all lowballed the Exile so hard that you've blinded yourself to the actual facts and decreed all of Kotor 2 is shit, when sourcebooks and even fugging TOR completely disagree with your arbitrary presumptions based solely on an era bias.
Well your shit ain't flying with me little boy.
Originally posted by AncientPower
I'm not lowballing or shitting on anyone, so you can end that Legend brand of hypocrisy right there.Galen Marek has never had particularly impressive Force defenses against actual Force users. So using him is completely irrelevant to someone with better defensive showings in Force combat than him. Rahm Kota and Kazdan Paratus both come to mind immediately.
But considering what I just posted above, you've got nothing more than a psuedo-fallacious comparison to Galen Marek to go off.
Here's the golden nugget: You've all lowballed the Exile so hard that you've blinded yourself to the actual facts and decreed all of Kotor 2 is shit, when sourcebooks and even fugging TOR completely disagree with your arbitrary presumptions based solely on an era bias.
Well your shit ain't flying with me little boy.
Revan and Vader are pretty damn close together. Meetra is not on Revan's level. Not even close. The novel makes that clear as day. Kreia mentioned that looking into Revan's eyes was like staring into the heart of the force. By her own admission she's nothing in comparison to him.
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Kek, Vrook stasis'd her ass.
Because the Exile was defending herself in that non-canon iteration. An iteration just as valid as Meetra killing all of them. 😬 Also it was all three of them using their powers. As they literally repeat three times in dialogue throughout the game.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Meetra's good, like Qui Gon level. That doesn't mean Vader isn't ragdolling her lel.
Traya would turn Qui-Gon into a blind, deaf coma patient with utter ease. 😂
Traya's spirit, which was being leeched off of by Darth Baras, was seen as a pure expression of dark side energy by Vowrawn, that the Wrath states is more alive with the dark side than anything he'd ever seen before.
But sure she's just Dooku tier. 👆
Originally posted by Chosen_Sith
Revan and Vader are pretty damn close together. Meetra is not on Revan's level. Not even close. The novel makes that clear as day. Kreia mentioned that looking into Revan's eyes was like staring into the heart of the force. By her own admission she's nothing in comparison to him.
Nah, Reborn Revan absorbing lightning far beyond Bane's tier and then absorbing a ton of Vitiate's lightning later, then still having enough power to heal himself almost completely right afterwards... pretty much shits on anything Vader ever did in a Force exchange tbh.
Vader wins a good fight, but he's not ragdolling. 😂
Originally posted by AncientPower
Traya's spirit, which was being leeched off of by Darth Baras, was seen as a pure expression of dark side energy by Vowrawn, that the Wrath states is more alive with the dark side than anything he'd ever seen before.But sure she's just Dooku tier. 👆
That isn't even confirmed to be Traya's spirit. Drew Karpyshin believes it is, but he had nothing to do with writting the story for the Sith Warrior class and thus his observation of that is his opinion and his conjecture, which he noted at least twice shouldn't be taken as canon.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Traya would turn Qui-Gon into a blind, deaf coma patient with utter ease. 😂Traya's spirit, which was being leeched off of by Darth Baras, was seen as a pure expression of dark side energy by Vowrawn, that the Wrath states is more alive with the dark side than anything he'd ever seen before.
But sure she's just Dooku tier. 👆
Vowrawn who got punked by a mercenary. More alive with the dark side =/= powerful. It's a comment about how ingrained in the dark side her spirit is. Remember, you can also comment on how weak/decrepit she is as well. You can't use a conversation choice to confirm your thoughts on the matter while ignoring other conversation options that are just as valid as a choice. No, Kreia is not Vader level and her feats/accolades/showings don't add up either to make me believe it. Again, we have the Revan novel and we know where Meetra stands in the grand scheme of things. Which is far below Revan.
Do I need to repeat the all too easy line again? I'm starting to think I need to repeat the all too easy line.