Originally posted by Sin I AM
I saying a character isn't automatically in a particular tier just because they have a certain powerset. We don't assume all telepathy are the same so y do flying bricks get a pass.
He's not automatically anything. You've used the word twice, but else here has said that?
Originally posted by -K-M-
Considering we saw panels of them fighting with intense looks on their faces...yeah, we can. He did and namor has clashed with them in the past too. So not sure why it's bad if BM is comparable to namor
But Namor himself compared BM's blows to Hulk and Thor. Not Wonderman or Ms. Marvel.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
😂I literally came to the computer to say that the two reasons that explain why so many posters have this battle wrong is a) some don't respect characters that are retroactively inserted into continuity until later and b) some can't conceive of a given Marvel character outclassing a D.C. character in power unless they are several tiers apart.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Based on what exactly? He has had an extremely impressive run
So has Blue Marvel in that time frame. I don't know why it's so hard to accept how he has been portrayed, that is, if you are familiar with his appearance. Everything from his fights to his power set showings to how he is described by others in comics says he is top tier. Every time there's a BM post, those that are actually familiar with the character have to cite his showings from the beginning because other act like they've never heard of him until now.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
He's not automatically anything. You've used the word twice, but else here has said that?
I asked a question and reiterated it with a statement. Based on feats John is greater. The problem isnt that BM was retconned into existence a la Sentry. The problem is he hasnt done much to suggest he's at that level.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
So has Blue Marvel in that time frame. I don't know why it's so hard to accept how he has been portrayed, that is, if you are familiar with his appearance. Everything from his fights to his power set showings to how he is described by others in comics says he is top tier. Every time there's a BM post, those that are actually familiar with the character have to cite his showings from the beginning because other act like they've never heard of him until now.
Noones questioning his showings. The problem is his limited appearances. Hes fought KH, a toenail of Shuma, Sentry and an Avengers squad. That's it. It gets recited ad nauseum but anyone familiar with him knows it aint much. Whats being used is hyperbole in place of actual on panel feats to place him on equal footing with established characters.
He's done nothing but provide solid evidence he's two notches above John's level. Why are you making this GL out to be something he isn't? Let me ask you something, has he replaced Hal Jordan at the top GL? Because if he hasn't, I'd remind you that DC heralds blow through his constructs like glowing piñatas.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Noones questioning his showings. The problem is his limited appearances. Hes fought KH, a toenail of Shuma, Sentry and an Avengers squad. That's it. It gets recited ad nauseum but anyone familiar with him knows it aint much. Whats being used is hyperbole in place of actual on panel feats to place him on equal footing with established characters.
You act like he's applying for a job and has to have the most impressive resume. That's not what this is. This is handicapping how a battle would go between the two and determining a winner. The "few" things that BM has done since his inception, JS hasn't done in his decades long existence and you can't simple ignore that. Well, I guess you can. You also should consider where each character fits in their respective universe's power tiers. If you can't do that, then you might as well not vote on battle threads of characters from separate universes that have never met.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
You act like he's applying for a job and has to have the most impressive resume. That's not what this is. This is handicapping how a battle would go between the two and determining a winner. The "few" things that BM has done since his inception, JS hasn't done in his decades long existence and you can't simple ignore that. Well, I guess you can. You also should consider where each character fits in their respective universe's power tiers. If you can't do that, then you might as well not vote on battle threads of characters from separate universes that have never met.