John Stewart (GL) vs Blue Marvel · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

One_Angry_Scot ----

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
K.. Here are some facts.
He's only been shown to get weakened in the Negative Zone.
Grevioux never intended for the anti-matter energies leaking to weaken him.
Just my take on it. Agree to disagree.

And in the Blue Marvel fight Anti-Man was causing the Negative Zone to leak into the outside world.

You have no proof of that either.

But I'll agree to disagree like you said.

-K-M- ...........

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
K.. Here are some facts.
He's only been shown to get weakened in the Negative Zone.
Grevioux never intended for the anti-matter energies leaking to weaken him.
Just my take on it. Agree to disagree.

They actually said the negative zone spefically was the cause just before sentry did the dive bomb and was drained for some reason

riv6672 Senior Member

This is all very interesting, but John GL isnt on a strength/durabilty level with Sentry.
Sentry isnt fighting BM here anyway.
So really, it matters not.

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

Originally posted by -K-M-
They actually said the negative zone spefically was the cause just before sentry did the dive bomb and was drained for some reason
http://oi60.tinypic.com/20juas.jpg

Are u kidding me? Cause of what?

-K-M- ...........

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Are u kidding me? Cause of what?

Considering that's what it says. No. No I'm not

"These anti-matter storms are getting worse as the negative zone aperture grows wider"

What's the negative zone made mostly of? Anti-matter

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

Originally posted by -K-M-
Considering that's what it says. No. No I'm not
"These anti-matter storms are getting worse as the [b]negative zone aperture grows wider"
What's the negative zone made mostly of? Anti-matter [/B]

Again.. Where is it stated that antimatter is weakening Sentry?

-K-M- ...........

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Again.. Where is it stated that antimatter is weakening Sentry?

Think you misinterept my reply (or maybe I misunderstood yours) I originally said "They actually said the negative zone spefically was the cause just before sentry did the dive bomb and was drained for some reason" as in the negative zone was the cause of the anti-matter leaking into earth

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

Originally posted by -K-M-
Think you misinterept my reply I originally said "They actually said the negative zone spefically was the cause just before sentry did the dive bomb and was drained for some reason" as in the negative zone was the cause of the anti-matter leaking into earth

Wait so why did u quote me in the first place? You seemed to imply that you have proof of antimatter energies weakening Sentry, when all you were saying is that "as in the negative zone was the cause of the anti-matter leaking into earth(whatever that means).

Also when did Namor face off against a similar team? I seem to recall it was a team battle and not at all similar to BM facing off against the Avengers. Can you clarify that?

-K-M- ...........

Sorry I misunderstood your post. I thoght you said the anti-matter wasn't connected to the negative zone. That was my mistake

It was avengers/invaders crossover. Give me a bit ill get the scans

Edit:

Namor was fighting them one on one too just as BM was doing for most of the fight (they took turns attacking BM).

he was using Wonderman as a baseball bat, smacked sentry around and caught a blood thirsty Ares axe throw (from behind mind you) and then got it stuck in iron man's chest. He did far more offensive damage then BM did

One_Angry_Scot ----

Always amusing seeing Simon used as a baseball bat.

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

Originally posted by -K-M-
Sorry I misunderstood your post. I thoght you said the anti-matter wasn't connected to the negative zone. That was my mistake
It was avengers/invaders crossover. Give me a bit ill get the scans
Edit:
[b]WW2 Namor vs. Sentry, Iron Man, Ares and Wonder Man
1. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/AvengersInvanders-006_zps9e0c7783.jpg
2. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/AvengersInvanders-007_zps7ddcbc32.jpg
3. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/AvengersInvanders-008_zpsd371d25a.jpg
4. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/AvengersInvanders-009_zps6d441b7d.jpg
5. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/AvengersInvanders-011_zps2b9c88f6.jpg
6. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/AvengersInvanders-012_zpsc998acb6.jpg
7. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/AvengersInvanders-013_zps54b50b60.jpg
8. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/AvengersInvanders-014_zps07213c29.jpg
Namor was fighting them one on one too just as BM was doing for most of the fight (they took turns attacking BM).
he was using Wonderman as a baseball bat, smacked sentry around and caught a blood thirsty Ares axe throw (from behind mind you) and then got it stuck in iron man's chest. He did far more offensive damage then BM did [/B]

Come on KM.. You really don't think that's comparable do you? It was a team battle.

-K-M- ...........

I don't...I think ww2 was much better and more impressive. Notice the avengers were attacking BM one at a time and were making him groan in pain or making him bleed and he didn't do much to react. They didn't all attack at once. Then he fought sentry and they traded a few punches until sentry had him down and he tried to talk to him and put his guard down and got hit into space. Then ares, wonder man and iron man tried to restrain him but he ended up punching iron man twice before sentry arrived and took him out. Which I know you don't like it but highly likely sentry was weakened as his powers were "screwing up"

Not once was namor in the trouble BM was. He was fighting them one on one mostly as BM was doing and sometimes 2 on one (ares And wonder man) and still getting the better of both. They literally took turns attacking BM almost like they formed a line and each got their shots in. Namor was doing the same but was taking it to them

Sin I AM Madame Mort

No sure y those scenes are even a discussion. It waa still a good feat just nor something that can't b replicated

Blue Area Vet Restricted

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Again.. Where is it stated that antimatter is weakening Sentry?

It doesn't, bro. This is just Abby speak, insisting something is there that actually isn't.

One_Angry_Scot ----

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
It doesn't, bro. This is just Abby speak, insisting something is there that actually isn't.

At least Celey is actually debating with us. You are just making random insults for no reason.

riv6672 Senior Member

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
It doesn't, bro. This is just Abby speak, insisting something is there that actually isn't.

Then we're agreed?
Useless tangent is useless because none of this applies to GL John. 😆

-K-M- ...........

Originally posted by Sin I AM
No sure y those scenes are even a discussion. It waa still a good feat just nor something that can't b replicated

Pretty much. Impressive he hung with the team like he did. But hardly a be all be all feat some try to make it out to be

leonidas MWHAHAHAHA!

Originally posted by -K-M-
I don't...I think ww2 was much better and more impressive. Notice the avengers were attacking BM one at a time and were making him groan in pain or making him bleed and he didn't do much to react. They didn't all attack at once. Then he fought sentry and they traded a few punches until sentry had him down and he tried to talk to him and put his guard down and got hit into space. Then ares, wonder man and iron man tried to restrain him but he ended up punching iron man twice before sentry arrived and took him out. Which I know you don't like it but highly likely sentry was weakened as his powers were "screwing up"
Not once was namor in the trouble BM was. He was fighting them one on one mostly as BM was doing and sometimes 2 on one (ares And wonder man) and still getting the better of both. They literally took turns attacking BM almost like they formed a line and each got their shots in. Namor was doing the same but was taking it to them

that's pretty much my take on it too.... /shrug

i still think it would come down to how john could handle the antimatter. from scw it doesn't seem gl's deal well with it. in dc most things don't though. he's got the strength to be a problem with that alone. combined, i'd take bm most of the time i think.

Blue Area Vet Restricted

Originally posted by -K-M-
I don't...I think ww2 was much better and more impressive. Notice the avengers were attacking BM one at a time and were making him groan in pain or making him bleed and he didn't do much to react. They didn't all attack at once. Then he fought sentry and they traded a few punches until sentry had him down and he tried to talk to him and put his guard down and got hit into space. Then ares, wonder man and iron man tried to restrain him but he ended up punching iron man twice before sentry arrived and took him out. Which I know you don't like it but highly likely sentry was weakened as his powers were "screwing up"
Not once was namor in the trouble BM was. He was fighting them one on one mostly as BM was doing and sometimes 2 on one (ares And wonder man) and still getting the better of both. They literally took turns attacking BM almost like they formed a line and each got their shots in. Namor was doing the same but was taking it to them

What's the point of you talking about the Namor fight? Namor is of a different mentally than Brashears. Namor is constantly fight heroes and is an antihero himself. Brashears doesn't fight heroes and he was clearly not even close trying to hurt or kill them. He didn't treat theme like he did King Hyperion or even Antiman. Those showing should not be discredited so people can feel good about JS chances. His chances are zero.

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

Originally posted by -K-M-
I don't...I think ww2 was much better and more impressive. Notice the avengers were attacking BM one at a time and were making him groan in pain or making him bleed and he didn't do much to react. They didn't all attack at once. Then he fought sentry and they traded a few punches until sentry had him down and he tried to talk to him and put his guard down and got hit into space. Then ares, wonder man and iron man tried to restrain him but he ended up punching iron man twice before sentry arrived and took him out. Which I know you don't like it but highly likely sentry was weakened as his powers were "screwing up"
Not once was namor in the trouble BM was. He was fighting them one on one mostly as BM was doing and sometimes 2 on one (ares And wonder man) and still getting the better of both. They literally took turns attacking BM almost like they formed a line and each got their shots in. Namor was doing the same but was taking it to them

Km. It was a team battle. There is no way in hell this stacks up to BM's Avengers fight. It just doesn't. Namor had the benefit of teammates fighting along side him while the Avengers were solely focused on one opponent.
He was being attacked in rapid succession while Namor's teammates were occupying the other members throughout the battle. Heck you even said IM, WM, and Ares tried restraining him at one point showing that they did attack him in unison.

And you claiming Namor not being in trouble is irrelevant. Why? Maybe beause he never fought them alone and ran off when they were about to?

Plus he spent half the time trying to explain to the Avengers they were wasting time. He only took the kid gloves off when he engaged Sentry eventually punting him to space. Then he seemed to dominate them briefly before Sentry divebombed. These two battles are not at all comparable let alone thinking the team battle was more impressive for Namor.