SoR Revan vs DE Luke Skywalker.

Originally posted by nedemette
Yeah, there's a contradiction. The intent with Vader's abilities depends on the authors. There's two different versions of him. One who was slow and not great until RotJ, and one who was great before ANH. Luke fought the slow one, not the one whose style was Djem So, Juyo, Ataru and Soresu, so why compare him to that one?

but:

Because if the people who decide canon allowed it to pass through then they obviously don't adhere to the line of thinking shown in the contradicted source.

Canon and Legends are two entirely separate continuities. My reasoning applies to sources that occur in the same continuity. I.E. two contradicting Legends sources like we have here or two contradicting canon sources.

If you're using composite Vader and looking at contradictions between canon and Legends then honestly just go with what you think is right. It's not like they'll ever line up anymore since Legends was declared null and void.

Originally posted by Zenwolf

Eh? What comic or novel was this?

Vader's Quest. Here's the scan:

Well he doesn't exactly run away but it's a far cry from taking on an entire army of Rebels in canon.

That's hilarious.

👆

Originally posted by Syndicate
Because if the people who decide canon allowed it to pass through then they obviously don't adhere to the line of thinking shown in the contradicted source.

Canon and Legends are two entirely separate continuities. My reasoning applies to sources that occur in the same continuity. I.E. two contradicting Legends sources like we have here or two contradicting canon sources.

If you're using composite Vader and looking at contradictions between canon and Legends then honestly just go with what you think is right. It's not like they'll ever line up anymore since Legends was declared null and void.

But they do decide what is allowed to pass through and if they pass through something that contradicts a prior source then it's only logical that they no longer support that prior source as canon. That's the reason we had all the different levels of canon back when it was just Legends. They wanted some sources to be above all others so if they ever were contradicted you would know which source had more validity. The only good thing about Disney buying up the franchise was that they sorted out the canon mess by declaring everything made post buy out canon.

Well Myth to be fair, that's an entire planet against 1 guy. The sheer numbers would just overwhelm him.

Except it wasn't an "entire planet", they were speaking hyperbolically. And most of them were literally old people and kids, the rest were unarmed villagers. Even if they try to swarm him, he could just swing his lightsaber back and forth all day long until they die... Especially with newer sources showing Vader killing thousands of trained soldiers without much issue.

Originally posted by Syndicate
But they do decide what is allowed to pass through and if they pass through something that contradicts a prior source then it's only logical that they no longer support that prior source as canon. That's the reason we had all the different levels of canon back when it was just Legends. They wanted some sources to be above all others so if they ever were contradicted you would know which source had more validity. The only good thing about Disney buying up the franchise was that they sorted out the canon mess by declaring everything made post buy out canon.

as an example, one source said that luke ''mirrored'' vader's form. luke mirroring an unique mix of djem so, ataru, makashi and soresu makes no sense, not even anakin had achieved that level with more time. luke's being compared to the vader he fought, not the one who fought marek

Well that's of course new canon, so yeah that's fine. But ok sure, not an entire planet...but that's still a lot of people surrounding him. Just swinging his lightsaber wouldn't really be able to cover every part of him, eventually one person would be able to knock the weapon away if they all charged at once.

But /shrug.

Revan.

I'm not saying the whole of Fightsaber is contradicted. I'm saying that passage from Fightsaber that's contradicted is. I don't know what the procedural of those that decided canon in Legends was. I'm assuming they did their research though.

Also if they pass sources that show Luke capable of doing that then we have to take that into account. Logically Anakin should have greater or at the very least equal potential in comparison to his son but Luke grew far more quickly then Anakin did. Whichever way you look at it's going to be unrealistic, regardless though we have to take Luke's incredible growth during the OT and his capabilities into account.

so luke mirrored makashi, djem so, soresu and ataru

I agree with Ned. 🙂

Originally posted by nedemette
so luke mirrored makashi, djem so, soresu and ataru

Yes.

lolk

use common sense, no he didn't

Why couldn't he have?

Originally posted by nedemette
lolk

use common sense, no he didn't

I don't think we're going to agree on this.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Why couldn't he have?

as in, form v

not II, III and IIII V

and he would not be able to learn that either, anakin didn't