Windu and Dooku; the former of whom fought Darth Sidious, the culmination of the Banite line's advancements in combative techniques, to an impasse, and the latter one the most talented and legendary Jedi in the Orders 25,000 year history? and the points I've raised in that regard are not assumptions, but facts. It is a fact that vast amounts of Jedi lore was lost during the Sacking of Coruscant;
If the supposed advancement - as in, the non-existent advancement of Banite’s lightsaber techniques - played any sort of significant factor in Sidious’ fights, then he wouldn’t have been disarmed by Yoda. It really is that simple. Yoda’s style is nothing more than the classical acrobatics of Ataru refined to their highest degree in one very small, incredibly fast package. Similarly, Sidious advancement in combat techniques didn’t help him against an off-shoot of Juyo and even Maul is able to give him a challenge in the right circumstances. As a final point, If we’re deciding which breed of sith is better based on their access to knowledge, then Sidious comes up tremendously short. More Sith Lore was lost than Bane’s sih could ever hope to recover, and some of that - already limited knowledge - get’s disrupted by Darth Gravid, setting Banite’s line back “centuries”. Quite clearly, lightsaber talent is not decided upon the size of one’s library. That is unless, you want to admit Sidious’ inadequacy to people like Sion or Traya in the lightsaber department?
it's a fact that many potential Jedi instructors would have died in the field before having a chance to convey their experience; and it is a fact that a constant state of conflict would limit the amount of time the Jedi would have to make comprehensive improvements to the styles (and if the effect of the New Sith Wars are any indication, less time to spend training Jedi in general).
It is also a fact, that there were more potential instructors to begin with. The Jedi had more than four times as many battlemasters and more people specializing in Lightsaber duelling on the field. The other thing to consider, is that their instruction would have been almost exclusively honed for lightsaber-to-lightsaber combat and not tuned for the modus operandi of blaster deflection. As I’ve pointed out, personal experience seems to catalyse the biggest spurts of growth for anyone worth mentioning in the Late Republic era - such as Mace, and is certainly more prominent than any training, in-house sparring or non-existent advancement of forms.
And in that respect do not have an overwhelming advantage over the PT era, certainly not over those who specialised in lightsaber combat, who in turn would have benefitted from more dedicated, advanced and refined instruction and teaching resources.Which proves the basics remain the same, yet within each form there are countless moves, manoeuvres and sequences that we know little about, and there exists not compelling evidence that these remained static, which is again, illogical. This is the point friend, the Jedi have had thousands of years to advance and improve on their combative techniques, and pass that on to subsequent generations.
They also had a thousand years to improve lightsaber technology itself, yet the weapon is fundamentally stagnant. No features - such as blade length & intensity manipulation - are any more advanced in modern times than they were in the day of Exar Kun. In fact, people like Nomi Sunrider could smash Mandolian Iron with their blades - something that’s scarcely seen during the New Jedi Order. If there is some inferred advancement in the forms, and the acceptance of such a premise is only logical, then why has the weapon itself remained unchanged? Secondly, if the forms themselves were adjusted, why are they better for duelling, than their supposed out of date derivatives? Given the type of adversary they’d expect - i.e blaster users , one can logically infer any modifications were tailored for facing blasters. So if you want to argue the likelihood of combat ‘modifications’ to the lightsaber forms, then I’ll argue the likelihood of those ‘modifications’ having nothing to do with duelling - and if that were the case, the PT Jedi would be even less prepared for lightsaber combat than we once expected.
Whereas the fact that Jango, when fully armed, was unable to take out Obi-Wan Kenobi, despite having backup from the laser cannons on a starfighter, who would later drive away Cad Bane without suffering lasting injury, should speak volumes as to how outclassed the best fighters of the TOR era are in comparison to the best of the PT. Cin Drallig's performance against the Chosen One being hardly relevant lmao.
Quite a few parallels to draw here. And when it comes to battles with non-force sensitive bounty hunters, the the PT order - even their finest and brightest - certainly do not outclass anyone, or even come close to outclassingthem, even in the case of fairly unknown battlemasters from the TOR. Firstly, the hunter is better than his ilk, the aged Jango Fett included. Secondly, Given the nature of this discussion - the topic being which era is better at lightsaber duelling - one might ask how this has become a competition of ‘who is better at long range battles with jetpacks and starships’. As for Kenobi and Vos[i] vs Cade Bane, Kenobi is essentially defeated and only spared at by the intervention of Vos, they were both on the receiving end of that battle, and if Bane wanted to remove them, he had the opportunity to more than once.
Friend I'm only following in your example. If you didn't want to have a discussion about choreography, you shouldn't have brought the "Great" Jensaarai into this. But you did and now your even more of a laughing stock than before.
You might want to point out where the great Jensaarai is mentioned [i]in this thread, or where I mentioned Choreography ever? If you want to argue the practicality of choreography Beni, and why analysing it favours the movie era, then I recommend you google "world championships kendo" or "fencing." What you'll see are fights that are quite the opposite of the duels in Revenge of the Sith. Particularly that infamous gif of Anakin and Obi wan twirling their sabers around needlessly in front of each other. If one of them would just stab the other the whole thing would be over. There's nothing going on here except "wow this looks really cool!” Which is what the Choreography is meant for. The fact you’d bring it up speaks volumes to your desperation.