Yeah, but where is this number coming from? From what study or test? Simply saying "google says" is not really a source, considering there are some forums/articles that say 5 to 8 times adult male, 6 to 15, and even 20 adult males in some cases. So what exactly are all these people throwing out the "2 ton" number basing it on?
Originally posted by TheVaultDwellerWhere's the source that says 6-15?
Yeah, but where is this number coming from? From what study or test? Simply saying "google says" is not really a source, considering there are some forums/articles that say 5 to 8 times adult male, 6 to 15, and even 20 adult males in some cases. So what exactly are all these people throwing out the "2 ton" number basing it on?
All I know is, there have been cases of Gorillas ripping off Car doors and flipping minivans, as well as breaking bullet-proof glass.
Well, this site, "Mammal facts", puts them at 6 times human strength. But that is one of the lower numbers I have seen, which is why I also mentioned higher estimates.
http://mammalfacts.com/gorilla-facts.html
I just find random facts/statements, without proper sources, a bit questionable. I mean I can post a screenshot of a google search where multiple sites claim Obama is a reptilian alien. Doesn't mean it's true.
And, anyway, as I pointed out, even taking blows from a being 6 times stronger than a fully grown man without getting seriously injured = beyond human durability.
On a random note... holy sh*t, 40lbs of food per day?!?!
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Well, this site, "Mammal facts", puts them at 6 times human strength. But that is one of the lower numbers I have seen, which is why I also mentioned higher estimates.http://mammalfacts.com/gorilla-facts.html
I just find random facts/statements, without proper sources, a bit questionable. I mean I can post a screenshot of a google search where multiple sites claim Obama is a reptilian alien. Doesn't mean it's true.
And, anyway, as I pointed out, even taking blows from a being 6 times stronger than a fully grown man without getting seriously injured = beyond human durability.
On a random note... holy sh*t, 40lbs of food per day?!?!
It's probably because gorillas, just like humans, will vary in their strength levels depending on gender, size, age, etc. Maybe 6-15x is your average gorilla and 20-25x is your average silverback.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
I just say its easiest to go with the most consistent facts.Because unless there are actual studies to find, there are no proof.
Problem is there aren't any real studies I could find. People tend to estimate how strong they are based on how, for example, they can tear down a banana tree, or support their on bodyweight for extended periods of time with one arm. But the very first numbers that actually came up when I put in "how strong are gorillas" was the 6 to 15 range, from Slate.com, which supposedly specialises in researching and answering questions for people. Then the "mammalfacts" site also threw out the x6 number.
Originally posted by FrothByte
It's probably because gorillas, just like humans, will vary in their strength levels depending on gender, size, age, etc. Maybe 6-15x is your average gorilla and 20-25x is your average silverback.
See, that's the thing. "Probably", "maybe". You're also just speculating now.
For a gorilla to be able to lift 2 tons, they would basically need to be able to lift a Bentley Continental off the ground.
Originally posted by TheVaultDwellerI look at a couple of articles. It is not hard to find. The 6 to 15 and some say even 20 comes from different studies from different scientist during different time periods. It depends on who you ask. As you mentioned 6 is really the low end for most studies.
Well, this site, "Mammal facts", puts them at 6 times human strength. But that is one of the lower numbers I have seen, which is why I also mentioned higher estimates.http://mammalfacts.com/gorilla-facts.html
I just find random facts/statements, without proper sources, a bit questionable. I mean I can post a screenshot of a google search where multiple sites claim Obama is a reptilian alien. Doesn't mean it's true.
And, anyway, as I pointed out, even taking blows from a being 6 times stronger than a fully grown man without getting seriously injured = beyond human durability.
On a random note... holy sh*t, 40lbs of food per day?!?!
As for injury Tarzan does get injured from the blows. When Tarzan saved Jane from Kerchak he was hospitalized from the hits. To be fair he did not fight back and took multiple hits defenseless.
Originally posted by Kotor3
As for injury Tarzan does get injured from the blows. When Tarzan saved Jane from Kerchak he was hospitalized from the hits. To be fair he did not fight back and took multiple hits defenseless.
Still, a beating from a gorilla (even a very brief one) would kill even a large, muscular man. So just the fact that he survived still puts him above that. Like I mentioned, even at x6 adult male strength, those blows will be shattering bone, pulping organs etc.
Originally posted by FrothByteThen you are really limiting Tarzan. How many recent movies do you have of Tarzan where he actually display something of note. (Disney and recent one)
I feel like this just complicates things. Too many feats from very different platforms and eras. Wouldn't it be simpler to base them on latest versions?
That is why I listed out some of his feats from previous and recent movies. Cap and Winter Solider are the more skilled fighters but can they wrestle a croc or gorilla? I really don't know the answer especially since Cap held down a helicopter.
Originally posted by TheVaultDwellerAgreed. That feat is from the recent movie. So what are your thoughts? How far does Tarzan get without rest and with rest after each battle.
Still, a beating from a gorilla (even a very brief one) would kill even a large, muscular man. So just the fact that he survived still puts him above that. Like I mentioned, even at x6 adult male strength, those blows will be shattering bone, pulping organs etc.
Originally posted by Kotor3
Agreed. That feat is from the recent movie. So what are your thoughts? How far does Tarzan get without rest and with rest after each battle.
Well, without having actually seen the movie, and going on what people here have mentioned, he should at least get past Black Widow. He seems to be around the same ballpark (at least durability wise) as the Super Soldiers, but I have no idea how good his fighting skill/striking feats are compared to theirs. I haven't watched any of the older Tarzan movies in a long time. I mostly remember Christopher Lambert's forehead looking enormous in Greystoke.
Originally posted by TheVaultDwellerFair enough. I was hoping some of the feats I listed would help people make a decision.
Well, without having actually seen the movie, and going on what people here have mentioned, he should at least get past Black Widow. He seems to be around the same ballpark (at least durability wise) as the Super Soldiers, but I have no idea how good his fighting skill/striking feats are compared to theirs. I haven't watched any of the older Tarzan movies in a long time. I mostly remember Christopher Lambert's forehead looking enormous in Greystoke.
The Black and White movies his strength feats are consistent. The recent movie they are not which was my biggest issue with the movie.
Just remember Tarzan can contend with Gorillas, Lions, Crocs, etc. That speaks to his strength, speed, and agility. He has not only contended but killed them.
Links from 1930 Tarzan movies. Battle against Croc and Lions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mROOk74jV24 – Croc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4SGsioYHlM - Lions