Darth Vader vs. Exar Kun

Started by Nephthys52 pages
Originally posted by AncientPower
He's still much more powerful there than he was against Abeloth.

NGL, that would seriously boost my opinion of Krayt and Muur if true.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Evidence?

He was growing constantly more powerful over the decades since FotJ:

I completed training as both Jedi and Sith. I honed my skills in the Clone Wars and I've killed thousands of opponents since then.
- Darth Krayt
Krayt perfected his combat techniques over many decades and his skills with telekinesis and Sith lightning far outstripped those of any Sith of his era.
- Star Wars Insider #113
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
It was still Celeste + Muur.

The statement makes reference to the ancient Sith spirit, i.e. Muur. Not as if Celeste Morne was powerful enough to provide him much of anything but a host in the first place.

It says a "third Force-user possessed powers that outshone them both" eg Celeste with the Muur talisman.

And even then Krayt dueled evenly with her. Only lost when Azlyn stabbed him in the back. And he still survived her lightning and being thrown off of the cliff. Which speaks a lot considering a simple duel with Cade forced Krayt to go back to stasis.

Unless Vader is somehow worse than a lightsaber wielding tree, he should stomp.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
It says a "third Force-user possessed powers that outshone them both" eg Celeste with the Muur talisman.

And even then Krayt dueled evenly with her. Only lost when Azlyn stabbed him in the back. And he still survived her lightning and being thrown off of the cliff. Which speaks a lot considering a simple duel with Cade forced Krayt to go back to stasis.

Lol, it says it was Muur. 🙄

@Trocity 👆

Originally posted by Trocity
Unless Vader is somehow worse than a lightsaber wielding tree, he should stomp.

Utter brain parasite.

In Celeste's body. Are you guys this dense?

Originally posted by Trocity
Unless Vader is somehow worse than a lightsaber wielding tree, he should stomp.

Hi is worse.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
In Celeste's body. Are you guys this dense?

It specifically refers to the Sith spirit, not the host. Morne is not at all comparable to Muur himself and he's been searching for a viable host replacement the entire time, because Celeste Morne is too weak for him to return properly and dominate the galaxy.

That still doesn't counter the fact that Krayt was on par with her in sabers and only lost because he was stabbed in the back.

That isn't even relevant to my point... Muur's spirit was more powerful, Muur in life would be even more powerful.

It's relevant because the quote is contradicted by actual showing 😬

AP, that quote doesn't suggest that Krayt was growing more powerful moreso than he was literally dying from his armor.

It states he's outright more powerful than either Cade or Krayt, then explains that the spirit blasted Krayt.

And Vong Krayt isn't as powerful as Vader; rather, there's no reason to think he is. His only feat is killing four imperial knights...

Originally posted by The Ellimist
AP, that quote doesn't suggest that Krayt was growing more powerful moreso than he was literally dying from his armor.

He was still getting more powerful though, which is the only relevant point. Krayt had his Vong implants during FotJ as well. Point being that Krayt is very impressive, contrary to your claim, thus making Muur's spirit very impressive indeed.

And then he couldn't actually beat Krayt. It's called a contradiction. Are you also gona support Kenobi > Sidious?

Also Krayt was beyond shadows fighting Abeloth, i.e. not inhibited.