yes luke saying that they were reaching the limits of what he could teach them defintely means they dont know basic force techniques ayy lmao 6969 logiks..
But seriously, no. Luke directly states it and you have no way to dismiss that. For them to not know basic force defenses they'd have to be extreme neophytes, literally the opposite of what the guy who is actually teaching them says.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
For a few moments. And you still haven't come up with a convincing argument for why we should care. At that point, only Streen had a halfway noteworthy Force feat.Huh? When Luke came in is around the time that Kun lost.
You mean they were actively darkening with the effort of trying to resist him and breathe.
Also your pathetic lowballing hasn't accounted for the fact that Dorsk sent two AT-ATs head over heels and completely flattened the cockpit of another, the latter feat accomplished in a second. The 'rocks' they launched at speeds faster than the terminal velocity of TIE fighters were described as 'large boulders'.
In that melded state against Exar Kun they were confirmed by Dorsk 81 to have collectively combined their powers to become far more powerful than any of them had imagined being.
Yet Kun as a starved and weak spirit was choking them out until Streen hax'd with Alter Environment.
Kun in his prime was far more powerful than he ever was as a spirit, so he'd be capable of literally just flat-out one-shot stomping them all with ease.
Anymore excuses you have left Elm?
Your impertinence deserves some punishment.
Upon re-reading the Thrawn Trilogy, I realized Beni's theory definitely holds a lot of weight that Vader is no longer a focal point of darkness because he had, indeed, redeemed him and moved on:
"On this spot, once, he'd fought a nightmare battle with a shadowy, unreal Darth Vader . . .
He reached the place and stopped, fighting back the fear and memories. But this time, to his relief, nothing happened. No hissing breath came from the shadows; no Dark Lord glided forward to confront him. Nothing.
Luke licked his lips and pulled the comlink off his belt. No; of course there would be nothing. He had already faced that crisis-had faced it and conquered it. With Vader redeemed and gone, the cave had nothing further to threaten him with except nameless and unreal fears, and those only if he allowed them to have power over him."
-- Heir to the Empire
Originally posted by NephthysCould I have a quote?
Luke had said that the apprentices were approaching the limits of what he could teach them.
Originally posted by ZiggystardustWell that's just it, despite all his training at the hands of Ben & Luke, they didn't even teach him to defend against a Force choke - he had to learn how from an ancient Holocron. So the idea that one must be an "extreme neophyte" to lack a defense against this power is unfounded, it's clearly not a basic Force technique. Heck even Jedi Masters have found themselves rendered helpless by this power.
That he did. Plus thisEllimist, stop picking holes where there are none.
Originally posted by SunRazer
Your impertinence deserves some punishment.
Punish me harder. 🙂
That aside:
Don't make me dial up the coqueto to a hundred Nova
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Could I have a quote? Well that's just it, despite all his training at the hands of Ben & Luke, they didn't even teach him to defend against a Force choke
So in other words, Vader couldn't use the Force to incapacitate a neophyte who didn't even know how to rebuke a Force choke?
😆
I guess it's unsurprising that he struggles in a tug war with Kanan and Ezra on a DS Nexus...