Kun Pulls A Nihilus

It is valid, to anybody not with an agenda to imply otherwise.

So says the biggest Kunt Kunite on KMC. mmm

Any closer to proving it? Temp seems to have you backed into a corner by my judgement.

EDIT: Ah I see your edit now, pretty weak tbh and didn't address my question. 🙂

Yeh, because there aren't five others sharing my position.

I've already made an argument, which you glossed over:

Originally posted by AncientPower
It's on page 183 of the Omnibus, it states Kun brought the ship to the light of day.

No statement or reference at all is made to establish the idea that he artificially created a means to raise the ship.

Instead we have a statement referring to Exar Kun raising the ship and making it spaceworthy. The idea that the comparison to Nihilus, is on them both using ship wrecks, is itself flawed. The Corsair wasn't a wreck, it was entombed within the bowels of the Temple of Fire.

That is where the comparison is made, Exar Kun raised the Corsair out of the Temple and Nihilus raised the Ravager out of Malachor V. The specific term 'raise' is conspicuous, instead of simply 'exhumed' or 'dug out'.

The wording is blatantly clear and the circumstances really aren't comparable unless you factor in TK. You're seeing what you want to see, when the answer is obvious.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Kun even claims that "if it still operates," he won't be stranded, implying that if it's not, he's screwed.

That just means he can't TK it into hyperspace.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Yeh, because there aren't five others sharing my position.

I've already made an argument, which you glossed over.

The wording is blatantly clear and the circumstances really aren't comparable unless you factor in TK. You're seeing what you want to see, when the answer is obvious.

Originally posted by AncientPower
No statement or reference at all is made to establish the idea that he artificially created a means to raise the ship.

Instead we have a statement referring to Exar Kun raising the ship and making it spaceworthy.

The idea that the comparison to Nihilus, is on them both using ship wrecks, is itself flawed. The Corsair wasn't a wreck, it was entombed within the bowels of the Temple of Fire.

Regardless they still bear similarities in the respect they are both abandoned vessels collecting cobwebs which were subsequently "resurrected".

That is where the comparison is made, Exar Kun raised the Corsair out of the Temple and Nihilus raised the Ravager out of Malachor V. The specific term 'raise' is conspicuous, instead of simply exhumed or dug out.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
That just means he can't TK it into hyperspace.

Originally posted by AncientPower
It's on page 183 of the Omnibus, it states Kun brought the ship to the light of day.

No statement or reference at all is made to establish the idea that he artificially created a means to raise the ship.

Instead we have a statement referring to Exar Kun raising the ship and making it spaceworthy. The idea that the comparison to Nihilus, is on them both using ship wrecks, is itself flawed. The Corsair wasn't a wreck, it was entombed within the bowels of the Temple of Fire.

That is where the comparison is made, Exar Kun raised the Corsair out of the Temple and Nihilus raised the Ravager out of Malachor V. The specific term 'raise' is conspicuous, instead of simply exhumed or dug out.

Substitute derelict for wreck and it's still analogous. The text for both excerpts state that each Sith Lord appropriated for his flagship a vessel the likes of which everyone thought was destroyed.

There's no reference to telekinesis lol. You are manufacturing a context that simply isn't there.

I haven't read the whole discussion, but the quote mentions Kun's resurrection of the Corsair being similar to the way that Nihilus resurrected the Ravager, which was through TK. That's my interpretation of it, anyway.

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Originally posted by SunRazer
I haven't read the whole discussion, but the quote mentions Kun's resurrection of the Corsair being similar to the [b]way that Nihilus resurrected the Ravager, which was through TK. That's my interpretation of it, anyway. [/B]

Context Nova context 🙂 I would have agreed with that interpretation but seeing that the very reason why Nihilus needed to use TK (because the Ravager was buried) is lacking in Kun's case it seems that the context was more referring to they're choice of flagship.

It's entombed within a massive temple, if anything it would be even more difficult.

Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
Context Nova context 🙂 I would have agreed with that interpretation but seeing that the very reason why Nihilus needed to use TK (because the Ravager was buried) is lacking in Kun's case it seems that the context was more referring to they're choice of flagship.

Their choice of flagship has nothing to do with the way they resurrect the ship, which is what's similar between Kun and Nihilus. The similarity in question was specifically stated to be tied directly to the way that Nihilus resurrected his ship, which was through TK, so frankly, I'm not seeing much of a counter-argument.

Also, who said it wasn't necessary for Kun to use telekinesis? The ship was buried and had a temple built around it, and we don't see it actually happening, so you can't say it was lacking in Kun's case.

The ship was not buried, it was sitting a giant hangar:

Was it surrounded by four walls? Yes. But seeing as nothing is stopping Kun from hopping into the cockpit and turning on the engines, I continue to fail to see a reason why TK was necessary in excavating it.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
The ship was not buried, it was sitting a giant hangar:

Was it surrounded by four walls? Yes. But seeing as nothing is stopping Kun from hopping in to the cockpit and turning on the engines, I continue to fail to see a reason why TK was necessary in excavating it.

Damn, nice. 👆

Except that isn't a hangar, it's the bowels of the temple.

That's not the point, point is it's a large open space in which the ship is more than accessible.

So please explain to me why TK is necessary to do anything the engines couldn't manage.

Who cares? He easily could have gotten into the ship and used its engines, which he'd have to do anyway for it to be worth anything, unless if he TKs it into hyperspace. And this conveniently messes up Nihilus's feat by their comparison too.

Edit: Beni beat me to it

Because it states that Exar Kun raised it (as in, out of an enclosed space, i.e. an enormous temple) and made the ship spaceworthy again. He didn't do one or the other but both. Just like Darth Nihilus did.

That doesn't mean he used tk to lift it when he could've just used its engines...

Originally posted by AncientPower
Because it states that Exar Kun raised it (as in, out of an enclosed space, i.e. an enormous temple) and made the ship spaceworthy again. He didn't do one or the other but both. Just like Darth Nihilus did.