Originally posted by Lestov16
Because the white man refuses to talk about the evils themselves. They complain about minorities problems but do nothing to solve their own institutionalized corruption problems. For instance this cop problem, you say blacks need to protest gangs, but where are the cops protesting corruption? Where are the whites protesting corruption? The white man complains that minorities have no handle on their problems, but yet the white man's corruption seems to be inextricably unsolvable.If the white man is too incompetent to solve their own corruption problem, then the minorities will, and the white man can't complain about minorities problems because it's minorities who have to solve the white man's corruption problems since the white man apparently can't solve it themselves, or else they would have done so already.
Even sadder though is unlike minorities current problems, the corruption problems of the white man go back decades of not centuries, so the fact that they weren't able to solve it in all of that time is especially bad. Like I said, if the white man can't control their violent cops, it's completely hypocritical to tell minorities to handle their violent gangs.
Lol but you also realize it's hypocritical to whine that black lives matter whilst not giving two shits about the biggest taker of black lives?
Let me tell you something: the cops aren't suddenly being killed in record numbers. I certainly haven't heard any reports of the sort, while the black crime rate just increases. By saying "we won't handle our problems until you handle yours" you are just doing more damage to the community you claim to want to help.
Soon the cops will just start suddenly having better things to do whenever a call from the ghetto comes in..then your people will die at even higher rates. What then will you do? Still dig in and wait for the cops to change first? While you're busy waiting for that your community tears itself apart. The cops aren't tearing themselves apart lol. Who do you think can afford to be stubborn here?
It's almost like the black community adopts the perfect attitude for prolonging this situation, which is strange.
Originally posted by Lestov16
China has a ban in family size to reduce birthrates. And most developed countries don't have such a restriction on contraceptives and abortions as the U.S. does.
Its not a ban. Its a restriction until youve proven that you can financially support the children, or its a fine.
Originally posted by krisblaze
Its not a ban. Its a restriction until youve proven that you can financially support the children, or its a fine.
I'd like to hear arguments for how it's not sensible to make sure people have the capacity to care for a child before they pop one out. We allow people on welfare to pop out kids and then some think the solution is "give them even more welfare" because LSD has been slipped into our water supply apparently. But not the good kind of LSD, the one that just leaves you with a bad trip that gives you flashbacks to like horrible instances from your childhood.
We make hit reality shows around teen pregnancies lol. We let children raise children. We pay women thousands upon thousands of dollars to talk about abstinence even though they have popped out several kids(Sarah Palin's horrid child).
Again, you're under the BS assumption that blacks do not protest crime in their neighborhoods. Remember most of these criminals as you stated aren't grown adults. They are youths with no childhood whose only idols are successful drug dealers and criminals-turned-rappers.
You say rap music has no effect, but that is because you are a responsible parent who would tell their child how foolish it is. But these black teens don't have that. Their parents are drug addicts who get prison time rather than rehabilitation. They are only surrounded by their peers and their music, and willingly turn away help out of fear of abandonment.
So again, if the white man wants to solve the blacks bad parenting problem, it means going to the legal system to stop arresting blacks for nonviolent crimes and drug abuse and get rehabilitation instead so they can be around to parent their kids. Of course though, the white man seems to be incapable of this, since as stated, if they could solve their corruption problem they would have, so minorities have to do so now through protests.
Again the white man solving their own corruption problem would put an end to minorities problems, but now minorities have to solve both.
It's not said they don't protest, they just don't protest enough and they do not protest with anywhere near the same zeal.
Never have I heard of them blocking interstates because a black kid was shot in the face. The reason is because if they did that they'd be blocking interstates 24/7 and we'd just have to come up with a teleportation system to get around all the blocked traffic.
If your group is named "Black Lives Matter" then any logical person would assume they'd want to go after the largest taker of black lives, right?
I've seen the blame passed around so many groups or people, my mind is blown. And making the claim that the "white man" solving his corruption problems will solve minorities problems is just about the dumbest thing i have ever heard. The words "personal responsibility" are nonexistent in lestovs vocabulary. Such delusion is dangerous.
Originally posted by SurturI'm completely serious when i say lestov and his delusions make people like lucius seem completely sane and i never thought that was a possbility.
It's a weird kind of privilege when you can literally lay every single misfortune at the hands of another group of people. There is a built in defense for pretty much every act imaginable. Whether it's drug dealing or murder..it all comes back to whites and white cops and just society.
Originally posted by Surtur
It's a weird kind of privilege when you can literally lay every single misfortune at the hands of another group of people.
But that's exactly what you're doing!
How is "police corruption isn't the white man's fault. It's a reaction to black violence." any different than "black violence isn't the black people's fault. It's a reaction to police corruption"?
This is that hypocrisy I'm talking about.
Originally posted by Surtur
It's not said they don't protest, they just don't protest enough and they do not protest with anywhere near the same zeal.Never have I heard of them blocking interstates because a black kid was shot in the face. The reason is because if they did that they'd be blocking interstates 24/7 and we'd just have to come up with a teleportation system to get around all the blocked traffic.
If your group is named "Black Lives Matter" then any logical person would assume they'd want to go after the largest taker of black lives, right?
Again, I never said blacks don't need to rectify their gang violence. My problem is that you say police don't need to rectify their corruption.
You say (hypocritically) that the corruption is not their fault but just the scared reaction of brave white men from savage blacks (this is what your argument insinuates). You call for blacks to monitor themselves but not for police to do the same. You call for minorities to be responsible for their own problems and at the same time want to avoid responsibility for your own.
Hypocritically, you support authoritarian corruption on the state level (cops are justified in their excessive brutality, corruption, and Blue Wall of Silence, which makes them above the law, because their every single misfortune is at the hands of black hoodlums) but condemn authoritarian corruption on the federal level (Hillary isn't above the law, she should pay for her crimes, her friends in the government shouldn't cover for her).
No offense, but your arguments seem like a huge, multi-layered sandwich of hypocrisy.
Originally posted by Stigma
Interesting. TBH it actually can be seen as sensible. Why have many children if you cannot support them. It can also spur the natural capitalist impulse in people.
At any rate I just wanted to point out that most developed countries are suffering from low birthrates and any kind of policy that reduces that would not see the light of the day.
Originally posted by Lestov16
But that's exactly what you're doing!How is "police corruption isn't the white man's fault. It's a reaction to black violence." any different than "black violence isn't the black people's fault. It's a reaction to police corruption"?
This is that hypocrisy I'm talking about.
I have said both sides play a part though. I don't say everything is 100% one thing. That is why it's not hypocrisy because I never said cops don't have to change. I have said they do. If cops ONLY acted the way they did because of black violence then what reason would there be for me to say they should change? There would be no logical reason for me to ever say the cops need to change if I assumed the other side was 100% to blame.
I acknowledge both sides need work, while there are some people who only seem to point fingers at everyone else.