Originally posted by Surtur
Even without the bombings Pakistan seems like kind of a shitty place to live so I'm voting no we don't turn any place into anything resembling Pakistan.
I don't know why people say bringing democracy to Iraq and Afghanistan was a failure. They have meaningless elections for politicians everyone hates and hundreds of people die in random senseless violence every day. Sounds exactly like American democracy to me.
Originally posted by jaden101
I don't know why people say bringing democracy to Iraq and Afghanistan was a failure. They have meaningless elections for politicians everyone hates and hundreds of people die in random senseless violence every day. Sounds exactly like American democracy to me.
You forgot "religious zealotry."
Originally posted by Surtur
That is actually hilarious.
Read a few stories, the police seemingly used their own explosive device delivered via robot to kill the shooter.
The shooter's claim that he had placed explosives around the area turned out to be false as multiple police-sweeps found zero explosives.
Even if the shooter had placed bombs around the area, it would be highly unlikely that the police would use one due to safety reasons.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/08/us/philando-castile-alton-sterling-protests/
I don't condone the shootings at all. That said, I'm surprised there aren't more like him out there, black men who've snapped and had enough of police brutality and murder with impunity, taking it back to the source.
This somehow makes me think of the O.J. verdict again - O.J. was most likely guilty, but got off because the trial became a referendum on the long, racist history of the LAPD, with the Rodney King fiasco just three years earlier.
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And now, following this...a black man found hanging from a tree in Atlanta.
http://usuncut.com/black-lives-matter/black-man-found-hanging-tree-atlanta-park/
What I just can't understand is the way police are trained to begin with:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/07/us/falcon-heights-shooting-minnesota/
Why are officers taught that there is a reason to have their weapon out and ready during a citation stop for a taillight that's out? This is the reason that these non-incidents escalate so quickly.
As to this shooting, it's just not surprising. You can only have this kind of thing going on for so long before there's a backlash. There are videos of police in AZ releasing dogs on people of all colors simply out in their yards at an apartment complex. There are videos of people of all colors being murdered by police. The incident down in Louisiana where the cops pulled over the guy and then opened fire into the car despite there being a child inside. Yes, the attacks are mostly against minorities, but police in general are overly-adversarial in the way that they approach many of the encounters that they are in. The decades worth of footage that has given world's wildest police chases fodder to feed off of shows the mentality that has been and continues to be pervasive in law enforcement in the US. Heck, there's a thread on these forums about that FBI agent who assaulted and pulled a gun on a 14 year old when he shouldn't have even been involved in the situation in the first place; he received not so much as an official reprimand.
Regardless of color, sex, age, or other, I doubt that most Americans look favorably on police in general at this moment. They are not trained in a way that mirrors their "protect and serve" motto in the majority of cases, and it's led to the current situation. If they continue acting as they have been I'm sure there will be more incidents like this, which is unfortunate because it's not the majority of officers who act this way, but a large enough minority that people believe there is reason to fear any encounter with cops.
They have dash cams on all police cruisers now, right? If they just standardized those wireless web cams on the chests of police officers, then the police wouldn't have anything to hide. We could see later on if they were right or wrong in their actions, taking away the contradictory he said/ he said testimony. But once again, that's probably a state to state question you can't enforce from Washington.
Originally posted by Ascendancy
Heck, there's a thread on these forums about that FBI agent who assaulted and pulled a gun on a 14 year old when he shouldn't have even been involved in the situation in the first place; he received not so much as an official reprimand.
It's because he wasn't black. When the cop threw the black girl around in the classroom it was a big deal.
I doubt that most Americans look favorably on police in general at this moment.
Then they should also not be looking favorably at the black community due to how brutal it is. Fair is fair, right?
Why is it with these things people ignore the huge elephant in the room? Why? Because the truth is uncomfortable?
Originally posted by MS Warehouse
[B]I beg to differ. I'd say most americans look unfavorably on blm now.
Especially after the one BLM chick got up during a vigil for the Orlando victims and started spouting off about black people and stuff. Again: this was at a vigil for the dead, and she was there saying "I wish this many people came to our BLM rallies". Utterly disgusting. So now I'm of the mind of: f*ck the entire group and anyone who associates with them or thinks they are a positive force.
If I went to a BLM matter and got up and began talking about the massive black on black crime or the homicide rates for the black population they'd freak out and yell and all this stuff and call me racist.
Originally posted by jaden101
The best thing about this whole situation is that there must've been a tactical meeting on how to deal with the situation and out of all the ideas that would have been suggested "stick a claymore mine on the front of a robot" was considered the best.
RIP to that robot that sacrificed itself.
Why do people think they have the right to block the interstates over a protest? Or throw shit like molotov cocktails at cops. Are these the people we are supposed to feel bad for?
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/black-lives-matter-protests-span-country-fourth-day-n606556
Even had protests here in Chicago where more traffic was blocked. I wouldn't let them block me. Go to the ghetto and organize and clean up those streets, do something valuable with your time and energy. Improve your own community so they commit less crime and are thus less likely to get killed by the cops.
Some interesting stats if they are true:
"during the 2012/2013 period, blacks committed an average of 560,600 violent crimes against whites, whereas whites committed only 99,403 such crimes against blacks. This means blacks were the attackers in 84.9 percent of the violent crimes involving blacks and whites. This figure is consistent with reports from 2008, the last year DOJ released similar statistics."