Dallas Police Ambushed by Snipers

Started by Surtur14 pages

Darwin award, BLM supporter breaks into cops house and gets killed:

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/intruder-shot-by-off-duty-st-louis-county-officer-after/article_00c6c2bd-d559-5b78-a8f1-e78187dfa2a6.html

Smashed in their window in order to get in. I'm devastated for the cops family..windows ain't cheap.

Originally posted by Surtur
Yes, I looked a lot smarted. Please continue responding.

Indeed you did. Smarticle even.

More arrests made, why is it so hard to peacefully protest?

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/48-more-arrests-made-protests-continue-baton-rouge-la-n606916

"Paid agitators" by yours truely, George Soros.

Are we even questioning a conspiracy anymore?

I think they'd behave this way whether they were paid or not.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/12/upshot/surprising-new-evidence-shows-bias-in-police-use-of-force-but-not-in-shootings.html?_r=1

Pretty much the biggest threat to the black community right now isn't the cops, it's the data lol. The data which just makes the community not look so good.

So I can almost understand why some would try to claim a fact is racist because..what else can you really do? Your argument otherwise just falls apart when you look at the data so obviously you either need to ignore it or admit to some uncomfortable truths and admitting to those truths does not help maintain the victimhood status.

So did you hear about the cops walking out of a WNBA game? I mean I was super shocked...I didn't even know people still actually still attended WNBA games. But the women had t-shirts that said "justice and accountability". Well okay, I wonder what would happen if a bunch of basketball players showed up with t-shirts that had nothing on them but the black crime statistics. People would be in an uproar.

Something strange: I am sure people heard this shooter was in the army. I found out despite doing things like stealing panties from female soldiers he still was able to get an honorable discharge.

So that means you can steal from your fellow soldiers and still get an honorable discharge. This seems kind of ass backwards.

Originally posted by Surtur
Pretty much the biggest threat to the black community right now isn't the cops, it's the data lol. The data which just makes the community not look so good.

So I can almost understand why some would try to claim a fact is racist because..what else can you really do? Your argument otherwise just falls apart when you look at the data so obviously you either need to ignore it or admit to some uncomfortable truths and admitting to those truths does not help maintain the victimhood status.

So did you hear about the cops walking out of a WNBA game? I mean I was super shocked...I didn't even know people still actually still attended WNBA games. But the women had t-shirts that said "justice and accountability". Well okay, I wonder what would happen if a bunch of basketball players showed up with t-shirts that had nothing on them but the black crime statistics. People would be in an uproar.

Right, like the data Dave posted that shows that police officers are more likely to use force on black suspects even when only looking at cases where the suspects were said to be compliant. 👆

Really makes the thugs that make up the black race look bad. 👇

Also, speaking of data, is there any data on the rate of convictions for when cops blow black people away compared to white people? Because the whole "I can use an illegal chokehold on a black man and strangle him to death and suffer no significant repercussions" aspect of the topic is a big part of why people are angry about it.

Right, like the data Dave posted that shows that police officers are more likely to use force on black suspects even when only looking at cases where the suspects were said to be compliant.

The data I posted was only used to counter the myth that minorities get shot more by cops, which the data supports. That's all it was meant to do.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Right, like the data Dave posted that shows that police officers are more likely to use force on black suspects even when only looking at cases where the suspects were said to be compliant. 👆

Really makes the thugs that make up the black race look bad. 👇

Also, speaking of data, is there any data on the rate of convictions for when cops blow black people away compared to white people? Because the whole "I can use an illegal chokehold on a black man and strangle him to death and suffer no significant repercussions" aspect of the topic is a big part of why people are angry about it.

No I'm talking about the whole "less than 15% of the population and yet responsible for over 50% of the murders" type of data.

So yes, it does make them look bad. It makes them look like they do far more damage to their own community than the cops. 👆

I fully realize that inconvenient truths are inconvenient.

Originally posted by Surtur
No I'm talking about the whole "less than 15% of the population and yet responsible for over 50% of the murders" type of data.

So yes, it does make them look bad. It makes them look like they do far more damage to their own community than the cops. 👆

Well, you and I both know you didn't, since no one brought that up (was it even brought up in this thread?) and you made your post on data right after Dave posted data, but we both know you're too stupid and cowardly to admit as much. You are after all the same retard who tries to justify Alton Sterling being killed by bringing up his criminal record, as if that justifies executing someone who apparently poses no threat to you.

I wonder if you could find a single person on this site who isn't a whirly sock troll or maybe a retard like Bardock that said that blacks don't perpetuate a lot of problems in their own communities. Can you?

Originally posted by NemeBro
Well, you and I both know you didn't, since no one brought that up (was it even brought up in this thread?) and you made your post on data right after Dave posted data, but we both know you're too stupid and cowardly to admit as much. You are after all the same retard who tries to justify Alton Sterling being killed by bringing up his criminal record, as if that justifies executing someone who apparently poses no threat to you.

I wonder if you could find a single person on this site who isn't a whirly sock troll or maybe a retard like Bardock that said that blacks don't perpetuate a lot of problems in their own communities. Can you?


Surtur's entire post, as far as I could tell, was that it didn't justify it, but was part of the reason.

And that whenever he made an argument saying that it was one of the many factors why X person was killed, people would always respond saying that he brought it up as a justification.

Which you just did.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Well, you and I both know you didn't, since no one brought that up (was it even brought up in this thread?) and you made your post on data right after Dave posted data, but we both know you're too stupid and cowardly to admit as much.

The data he posted caused my comment about data overall yes.

You are after all the same retard who tries to justify Alton Sterling being killed by bringing up his criminal record, as if that justifies executing someone who apparently poses no threat to you.

You toss around words like retard and then just come off as one yourself. I never said he deserved to be murdered. What I said was people act like he was a saint, like he was innocent, like he wasn't a criminal. He was, with a long rap sheet. This was not a man walking down the street just minding his own business.

We're only apparently allowed to talk about one aspect, the cop aspect. The cops are the only people that have to change. That is usually the message that comes across when this shit happens. A message that is quite silly.

I wonder if you could find a single person on this site who isn't a whirly sock troll or maybe a retard like Bardock that said that blacks don't perpetuate a lot of problems in their own communities. Can you?

Do people flat out say what you just said? No not really, but there is an overall attitude. For instance:

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Horrible tragedy. Violence breeds more violence it seems.

This person would never say this in a thread about a cop killing a black guy, but it will get said in a thread about a black guy killing cops.

We scream and cry and protest over these shootings and some 95% of the time it seems it happens to criminals resisting arrest. Again before you jump on that: it doesn't mean that warrants automatic execution. I'm essentially saying there is more to this than just "cops are racist".

Perhaps you know that, but the country/media don't really portray it in such a way. It's portrayed as if cops just get up to do them some black people hunting every morning. That is why I said data is the biggest threat, the data that shows off most of these problems are not caused by cops or racism.

Call them unpleasant facts or inconvenient truths or whatever you wish, but there is this habit in this country of just ignoring these things. Essentially in this situations it is almost taboo to suggest anyone but the cop did anything wrong. Guy was a criminal? Meh, the original call to the cops was because he was apparently waving a gun in someone's face? Meh. The lesson isn't don't be a criminal or wave guns around in peoples faces since you might get the cops called on you. The lesson is that cops hate black people. The protests are always "why do you kill us so much" and never "why do we commit so much murder and crime?" or "could there be any other reason for this other than racism?".

Originally posted by Surtur
The lesson is that cops hate black people.

Could the lesson possibly be there are far too many chickenshit bitches who should not be carrying a gun hiding behind a badge and a system that allows them to shoot when unjustified without consequences?

Originally posted by you get thorns
Could the lesson possibly be there are far too many chickenshit bitches who should not be carrying a gun hiding behind a badge and a system that allows them to shoot when unjustified without consequences?

If an unjustified shooting nets you the label "chickenshit bitches" then the black community has the most chickenshit bitches in this country.

Perhaps that is why they get shot disproportionately by cops, because they commit murder disproportionately.

Originally posted by you get thorns
Could the lesson possibly be there are far too many chickenshit bitches who should not be carrying a gun hiding behind a badge and a system that allows them to shoot when unjustified without consequences?

Or that a chickenshit psycho with a sniper and a hatred for black people was a ***** that set back the BLM movement as far as anyone can remember?

Originally posted by krisblaze
Surtur's entire post, as far as I could tell, was that it didn't justify it, but was part of the reason.

And that whenever he made an argument saying that it was one of the many factors why X person was killed, people would always respond saying that he brought it up as a justification.

Which you just did.

I did because he's too stupid to realize that any prior criminal record in this case Sterling had is frankly irrelevant to the subject of whether or not his shooting was justified or not.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I did because he's too stupid to realize that any prior criminal record in this case Sterling had is frankly irrelevant to the subject of whether or not his shooting was justified or not.

But are you not too stupid to realize I never said it meant it was justified? You see merely pointing out he wasn't a saint, as is the automatic assumption for some when a cop kills a black guy, does not mean I said it was justified.

Like I said, people act like the cops just randomly target a dude minding his own business and abiding by the law. That doesn't mean I said it was right, it means I'm talking about a false narrative that gets presented to us by the media.

Originally posted by Surtur
If an unjustified shooting nets you the label "chickenshit bitches" then the black community has the most chickenshit bitches in this country.

Perhaps that is why they get shot disproportionately by cops, because they commit murder disproportionately.

Maybe if people like Conservative messiah Ronald Reagan didn't purposely flood ghettos with crack cocaine as part of Iran Contra, black neighborhoods wouldn't be as bad as they are.

Maybe if people like Daryl Gates didn't purposely have officers murder black men and plant crack on them, blacks would trust police.

Maybe if the cops didn't detain the man who posted the Sterling shooting as harassment/ revenge, people wouldn't view them as a club of bullies.
http://thesource.com/2016/07/10/man-who-posted-alton-sterling-shooting-video-has-been-arrested-by-police/
That's right. The cops tracked down the poster of the Sterling video, arrested him because "he looked like a battery suspect" and then held him in the precinct of unpaid parking tickets (the robbery was never mentioned after the arrest).

But there's the fact that Ferguson PD purposely targeted blacks to fill quotas and profit from court fees.
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2015/03/ferguson-as-a-criminal-conspiracy-against-its-black-residents-michael-brown-department-of-justice-report/386887/
Note these aren't violent people being persecuted. They weren't gangbangers. They were regular citizens being targeted for minor vehicular crimes.

Is there a black gang violence problem, yes. But we're working on that. You ask why BLM doesn't cover black on black violence, but that just means you never bothered to look up groups like OGs Against Violence, that are dedicated to stopping gang violence.

As the Ferguson article shows, even non violent blacks are persecuted by police, so it's not just a matter of "if blacks calm down the cops won't hurt them". Regardless of black on black crime, that doesn't negate the fact that there is a clear police corruption problem as well.