Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Originally posted by AuraAngel
A success would simply be making the money back and garnering a huge profit in addition. No Star Wars movie is gonna flop. Ever.

That's also not the foundation for the movie I was talking about.

I bet the Last Jedi makes more than Solo. Want to take the bet ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you come back to your own subjective opinion. Your thoughts aren't indicative of reality and no brand can continue to shell out inferior products and not suffer any consequences. Your idea of quality is different than mine so you have to look at the numbers. Otherwise it's just arguing over preference.

I bet the Last Jedi makes more than Solo. Want to take the bet ?

Yes. Why would I argue over anything else? Do you think the highest rated movies in the world are listed by net-worth?

It probably will. I'm not really interested at all in Solo.

Originally posted by Nephthys
In both cases, Poe and Finn are told to back off by more experienced and more objective superiors but decide to ignore them because they're convinced they know better. In both cases they are being needlessly reckless and not thinking things through enough. Poe didn't consider what the cost of the attack would mean to the tiny Rebel fleet and Finn wasn't thinking about the odds of him actually succeeding. They were just focused on taking down the FO at any cost. They weren't showing off, but neither were thinking clearly and they were ultimately wrong in their methods and assessment of the situation.

Finn definitely should have listened to Poe, considering how much better of a pilot he is, in any case. If the best pilot in the galaxy says its impossible, it probably is. If he had had a shot at actually taking it out the AT-AT's would have vaporised him.

Ah I see I see. Well Luke is a far more experienced Force user than Rey and he says Kylo can't be saved. She probably should have just listened to him instead of trying to accomplish anything.

Luke was right that Kylo couldn't be saved though, lol.

In Rey's case she certainly was being reckless and not assessing the situation clearly and like Finn and Poe needed to be bailed out of certain doom. It turns out a bit better for her however since her trust in Ben Solo is half-way rewarded.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Yes. Why would I argue over anything else? Do you think the highest rated movies in the world are listed by net-worth?

It probably will. I'm not really interested at all in Solo.

Ah I see I see. Well Luke is a far more experienced Force user than Rey and he says Kylo can't be saved. She probably should have just listened to him instead of trying to accomplish anything.

So you agree the type of Star Wars film matters. As I said these films will smash Solo since they have superior characters in them to me. Last Jedi is great. Highly rewatchable.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No one cares about your emotions, kid. Leave the board already.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
You do, friend. Nah, you'd miss me because you're weird like that.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Luke was right that Kylo couldn't be saved though, lol.

In Rey's case she certainly was being reckless and not assessing the situation clearly and like Finn and Poe needed to be bailed out of certain doom. It turns out a bit better for her however since her trust in Ben Solo is half-way rewarded.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Luke was right that Kylo couldn't be saved though, lol.

In Rey's case she certainly was being reckless and not assessing the situation clearly and like Finn and Poe needed to be bailed out of certain doom. It turns out a bit better for her however since her trust in Ben Solo is half-way rewarded.

And yet trying to save Kylo was a net positive for the galaxy since Snoke is now dead. Like sometimes sacrifices lead to good things even if they appear pointless.

If you don't make a decision because there are risks then you may as well not really do anything. Objectively every single person from the Resistance still alive should abandon it in a heartbeat because they have 0 reasonable chance of winning now. But they don't because they seem to be decent folks who are willing to try and do the impossible. Are they wrong?

Originally posted by quanchi112
I know but whatever you prefer isn't really something you can argue. You're talking to the only Snoke fan out there. My point is this franchise is objectively crushing it.

So you agree the type of Star Wars film matters. As I said these films will smash Solo since they have superior characters in them to me. Last Jedi is great. Highly rewatchable.

Well yes but people hate the prequels despite the money they made. If the discussion was all about the financial gain then there is no discussion. The only question is if it is making money with a clear yes or no.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No one would miss you, cur.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
And yet trying to save Kylo was a net positive for the galaxy since Snoke is now dead. Like sometimes sacrifices lead to good things even if they appear pointless.

If you don't make a decision because there are risks then you may as well not really do anything. Objectively every single person from the Resistance still alive should abandon it in a heartbeat because they have 0 reasonable chance of winning now. But they don't because they seem to be decent folks who are willing to try and do the impossible. Are they wrong?

Well yes but people hate the prequels despite the money they made. If the discussion was all about the financial gain then there is no discussion. The only question is if it is making money with a clear yes or no.

Originally posted by Nephthys
In both cases, Poe and Finn are told to back off by more experienced and more objective superiors but decide to ignore them because they're convinced they know better. In both cases they are being needlessly reckless and not thinking things through enough. Poe didn't consider what the cost of the attack would mean to the tiny Rebel fleet and Finn wasn't thinking about the odds of him actually succeeding. They were just focused on taking down the FO at any cost. They weren't showing off, but neither were thinking clearly and they were ultimately wrong in their methods and assessment of the situation.

Finn definitely should have listened to Poe, considering how much better of a pilot he is, in any case. If the best pilot in the galaxy says its impossible, it probably is. If he had had a shot at actually taking it out the AT-AT's would have vaporised him.

If you don't make a decision because there are risks then you may as well not really do anything. Objectively every single person from the Resistance still alive should abandon it in a heartbeat because they have 0 reasonable chance of winning now. But they don't because they seem to be decent folks who are willing to try and do the impossible. Are they wrong?

Originally posted by AuraAngel
And yet trying to save Kylo was a net positive for the galaxy since Snoke is now dead. Like sometimes sacrifices lead to good things even if they appear pointless.

If you don't make a decision because there are risks then you may as well not really do anything. Objectively every single person from the Resistance still alive should abandon it in a heartbeat because they have 0 reasonable chance of winning now. But they don't because they seem to be decent folks who are willing to try and do the impossible. Are they wrong?

Maybe. Or maybe an unstable Kylo Ren being in charge of the First Order will lead to an increase in the brutality of the war. Like I said, Rey is half-way rewarded because her motives are ultimately a trust in Kylo and what the Force showed her but she still was insanely reckless and naïve.

The movie doesn't shit on taking risks. Poe's gambit at the start of the movie is a huge risk and it works and its markedly very similar to Luke's gambit at the end of the movie. The film instead criticises taking unnecessary and poorly thought-out risks based on prioritising your own ego over other opinions. The typical heroic ideal of an individual who knows better than anyone else and succeeds despite ridiculous odds and horrific sacrifices because they're just that god damned heroic is pointed out for the absurdity it is.

I wonder if Holdo survived the lightspeed attack.

I saw the movie. Wow. Just...yeah. What the utter f*ck? PC bullshit wrapped in a Star Wars package. Even Mark Hamil was talking shit about it lol.

What a let down.

You are taking marks comments out of context as usual. Quit with your typical spinning you piece of shit.

Originally posted by Surtur
I saw the movie. Wow. Just...yeah. What the utter f*ck? PC bullshit wrapped in a Star Wars package. Even Mark Hamil was talking shit about it lol.

What a let down.

Originally posted by Sith Master X
I wonder if Holdo survived the lightspeed attack.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You are taking marks comments out of context as usual. Quit with your typical spinning you piece of shit.

Quit whining cuz the movie blows.

Hamill regrets those remarks, even if everyone keeps purposefully cutting out the parts where he turns it around and says he thinks the movie proved him wrong and was great.

Originally posted by Surtur
Quit whining cuz the movie blows.