Star Wars: The Last Jedi · Movie Discussion

Placidity Chief Executive Officer

Originally posted by quanchi112

Anyone's opinion on what they should do is probably different but I'm not the director I go with the facts [...]

Is that really saying anything other than perhaps it would be hypothetically impossible for you to see any flaws with the film? It is like saying there is no such thing as good writing or bad writing. Sharknado is a good movie, because the director made it, therefore I like it.

And everyone's opinion is *not* different. Most people who liked Snoke would agree it was extremely poor to kill him off so early and suddenly. There is absolutely no satisfaction or pay off with his "shock" death. How can you claim to love something specifically because it is good, yet appear indifferent to the way it is treated?

If Snoke will be explored again later, it is not because of Rian's intentions. It would be the future director/writer resurrecting a wasted character.

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Originally posted by Placidity
Is that really saying anything other than perhaps it would be hypothetically impossible for you to see any flaws with the film? It is like saying there is no such thing as good writing or bad writing. Sharknado is a good movie, because the director made it, therefore I like it.
And everyone's opinion is *not* different. Most people who liked Snoke would agree it was extremely poor to kill him off so early and suddenly. There is absolutely no satisfaction or pay off with his "shock" death. How can you claim to love something specifically because it is good, yet appear indifferent to the way it is treated?
If Snoke will be explored again later, it is not because of Rian's intentions. It would be the future director/writer resurrecting a wasted character.

I never said I loved everything about the film. Most films aren't perfection you upset school girl.

We don't know how this will end. Sidious died in Rotj with hardly anything exploring the character. Just because we didn't get a play by play of his entire life doesn't take away from the character. If that scene was in the first twenty minutes of the film that doesn't take away from his character. You're too focused on the typical Star Wars formula to imagine anything to outside the box.

Snoke's dialogue, his look, his scenes, and the manner in which he mocked Hux, Rey, and Ren was unforgettable. Rian Johnsom gave me this. No other director gave me these scenes and in this manner. His life didn't begin in TFA. We also don't know what the future holds in store for Snoke. Every scene he was in I was captivated by so it doesn't matter if this was in the first film, second, or the ending of the third.

Snoke was clearly immensely powerful and beyond the others in fair combat an accolade no other Star Wars character can claim at this point. You're upset with the film which is fine. You want Star Wars to fail. That's also fine and you're free to rage all over the internet about your hatred towards Rian Johnson. I'm a very happy Star Wars fan who loves the possibilities of what this trilogy holds. Abrams and Johnson delivered already on my favorite Star Wars character to date.

Lord Lucien Lets all love Lain

Originally posted by quanchi112
Most films aren't perfection you upset school girl.

Grown Ups 2 is the exception.

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Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Grown Ups 2 is the exception.

You really do wait for your ideal moment to unleash your jokes.

Lord Lucien Lets all love Lain

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
For a Star Wars film it was mediocre.

So... it was average then. For a Star Wars film. Between the quality of the OT, the flatulence of the PT and Clone Wars, the meh of Rogue 1, and the Okey Dokeyness of TFA... TLJ being "mediocre" is pretty damn good for a Star Wars film.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You really do wait for your ideal moment to unleash your jokes.

I'm a master of comedic thingamabob.

Placidity Chief Executive Officer

Originally posted by quanchi112
I never said I loved everything about the film. Most films aren't perfection you upset school girl.

Can't wait to hear some of the things you didn't like. Won't be holding my breath.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If that scene was in the first twenty minutes of the film that doesn't take away from his character. You're too focused on the typical Star Wars formula to imagine anything to outside the box.

Not wasting a good villain immediately has nothing to do with a "Star Wars formula".

Originally posted by quanchi112
Just because we didn't get a play by play of his entire life doesn't take away from the character.

Going back to straw man arguments. Ok 😉

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Originally posted by Placidity
Can't wait to hear some of the things you didn't like. Won't be holding my breath.
Not wasting a good villain immediately has nothing to do with a "Star Wars formula".
Going back to straw man arguments. Ok 😉

The act and the film he dies in doesn't take away from the character IMO. As I said we saw little to nothing about Sidious in the Ot. That doesn't take away from the character since we barely see him and he dies.

Once agin your opinion of when he dies is all you're concerned with. You aren't enough intelligent enough to grasp your own tunnel vision here.

You hated the film. No one is forcing you to see any more Star Wars films. Take your butthurt elsewhere. I've explained myself and you can't look past your own perceptions. You never could so this doesn't just pertain to Star Wars. It's who you are.

Placidity Chief Executive Officer

Originally posted by quanchi112

Once agin your opinion of when he dies is all you're concerned with. You aren't enough intelligent enough to grasp your own tunnel vision here.

More straw man arguments. Unable to explain why it is good Snoke was killed off the way he was.

Originally posted by quanchi112

You hated the film. No one is forcing you to see any more Star Wars films. Take your butthurt elsewhere.

I will express my thoughts here as much as I please. No one is forcing you to read it, or respond if you can't handle it.

Originally posted by quanchi112

I've explained myself and you can't look past your own perceptions. You never could so this doesn't just pertain to Star Wars. It's who you are.

Coming from someone who is delusional and mentally ill - That is the definition of irony.

I don't mind if you want to make comments about my person 🙂 - I surmise you are a loser and achieved nothing in real life. Do tell me how I am wrong.

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Originally posted by Placidity
More straw man arguments. Unable to explain why it is good Snoke was killed off the way he was.

You are the one using a strawman. I said I enjoyed the character and explained why. Your whole reasoning is again you didn't like the director of his vision. My point was this film gave me great scenes with Snoke. You avoided that because you're stupid IMO. You don't grasp the bigger picture.

I will express my thoughts here as much as I please. No one is forcing you to read it, or respond if you can't handle it.
Coming from someone who is delusional and mentally ill - That is the definition of irony.
I don't mind if you want to make comments about my person 🙂 - I surmise you are a loser and achieved nothing in real life. Do tell me how I am wrong. [/B]

I like to mock it just as Snoke liked to mock his subordinates.

So now you're psycho analyzing me showing you're definitely affected by me.

My real life achievements are immaterial to the discussion at hand but if you want to concede the debate by all means do so now.

Adam Grimes Devil On Your Shoulder

Good riddance of that garbage tier character in arguably the best moment of a garbage tier movie. 👆

Flyattractor Senior Member

Oh I am sure everybody that died will be back in the next one....welll ALMOST Everybody....No wait...I forgot...The can CGI in Mark Hamill and Harrison Ford.

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Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Good riddance of that garbage tier character in arguably the best moment of a garbage tier movie. 👆

No one cares about your emotions, kid. Leave the board already.

Placidity Chief Executive Officer

Originally posted by quanchi112

My real life achievements are immaterial

I already knew that, but I didn't think you would outright confirm it. So you are actually capable of being honest, that is unexpected.

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

I'm still pissed that this movie did not have a single lightsaber fight and butchered Luke Skywalker. It's so frustrating. After his training with Yoda and overcoming the dark side by sparing Vader, the idea that he'd EVER raise a lightsaber against another living being unless it's for self defense, much less a child....smh.

"A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense, never for attack."

Mindset Senior Member

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm still pissed how this movie did not have a single lightsaber fight

lol wut?

Yea, I'll wait on this one.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Placidity
I already knew that, but I didn't think you would outright confirm it. So you are actually capable of being honest, that is unexpected.

Well they aren't relevant to the debate but I'd bet I have more you do but I'm sure according to you you're a CEO or something. Quit with the posturing and actually stick to debating you insecure loser.

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Originally posted by Mindset
lol wut?
Yea, I'll wait on this one.

It is fantastic. I would not steer you wrong and there is plenty of lightsaber action.

juggernaut74 Bigsexy

The lightsaber action was lame.

Just like the movie.

Every time Kylo Ren uses his saber he gets his ass almost killed.

Nephthys The Gr8est!!!!!!!!

The fight in this may be my favourite of any of the lightsaber fights in the movies.

The ending in particular is so fcking slick.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by juggernaut74
The lightsaber action was lame.
Just like the movie.
Every time Kylo Ren uses his saber he gets his ass almost killed.

False, but you're a Star Wars hating nitwit so you really want this to fail despite it just bringing in the cash. Fantastic action in this film. If you want to talk about lame lightsaber action look no further than ANH or ESB. The ot's save the third had laughable choreography.

Kylo would butcher Vader.