Originally posted by quanchi112
You seem to recall posts made by me years ago but can't even pinpoint my points which exist in this very thread ? Seriously ?
This may surprise you, but I rarely read your posts anymore, a few here and there.
But I went back. No, murdering a 64 year old man isn't more evil than murdering a bunch of very young children.
Kylo also knows he's not as great as Vader, as he desperately aspires to be like Vader. This was a main theme of his character in ep7
Originally posted by RobtardThat's subjective reasoning at it's finest. We take similar situations to compare these two. Anakin aka Darth Vader just recovered an order in which he agreed they were at war with the Jedi and needed to be annihilated. That wasn't just an old man that was his father which is much harder than killing some random 64 year old man. That's dishonesty on your end. Both men had a struggle over a family member. He recognized and defeated the inner light with regards to killing his own father whereas Vader denied the inner light. In Vader's case he failed and chose his own son over his master.
This may surprise you, but I rarely read your posts, a few here and there.But I went back. No, murdering a 64 year old man isn't more evil than murdering a bunch of very young children.
Kylo also knows he's not as great as Vader, as he desperately aspires to be like Vader.
Jordan modeled certain athletes prior to leapfrogging them as well. You set the bar high and don't stop. Kylo already eclipsed him in evil in one film once he killed his own father. Killing randoms aka those who opposed him was achieved in the first scene. That didn't even give him pause. What gave both he and Vader pause was son/father. Kylo killed his father while Vader turned back to the Jedi after sparing his son. Pretty clear cut.
Originally posted by quanchi112
That's subjective reasoning at it's finest. We take similar situations to compare these two. Anakin aka Darth Vader just recovered an order in which he agreed they were at war with the Jedi and needed to be annihilated. That wasn't just an old man that was his father which is much harder than killing some random 64 year old man. That's dishonesty on your end. Both men had a struggle over a family member. He recognized and defeated the inner light with regards to killing his own father whereas Vader denied the inner light. In Vader's case he failed and chose his own son over his master.Jordan modeled certain athletes prior to leapfrogging them as well. You set the bar high and don't stop. Kylo already eclipsed him in evil in one film once he killed his own father. Killing randoms aka those who opposed him was achieved in the first scene. That didn't even give him pause. What gave both he and Vader pause was son/father. Kylo killed Vader turned back to the Jedi. Pretty clear cut.
Probably best to let Kylo's story arc finish before making judgements about his allegiance towards dark/light.
Originally posted by quanchi112
That's subjective reasoning at it's finest. We take similar situations to compare these two. Anakin aka Darth Vader just recovered an order in which he agreed they were at war with the Jedi and needed to be annihilated. That wasn't just an old man that was his father which is much harder than killing some random 64 year old man. That's dishonesty on your end. Both men had a struggle over a family member. He recognized and defeated the inner light with regards to killing his own father whereas Vader denied the inner light. In Vader's case he failed and chose his own son over his master.Jordan modeled certain athletes prior to leapfrogging them as well. You set the bar high and don't stop. Kylo already eclipsed him in evil in one film once he killed his own father. Killing randoms aka those who opposed him was achieved in the first scene. That didn't even give him pause. What gave both he and Vader pause was son/father. Kylo killed his father while Vader turned back to the Jedi after sparing his son. Pretty clear cut.
Your argument is: "killing children doesn't count because it ruins my argument". Bit silly, but expected. A similar situation isn't 'Kylo killing his father' and 'Vader not killing his son'. A parent's love for their children transcends a child's love for the parent, generally speaking. So your comparison fails.
Kylo's playing catch up at best and we'll also have to see if Kylo can pull the trigger in killing his mother, we see him about to cry in the trailer...
Edit: In case you missed it, here is a still of Kylo about to cry
Originally posted by RobtardI didn't say it didn't count I said it wasn't similar to killing a family member. Yes, that is similar since they are both family members. They both fought against inner light. Vader failed Kylo succeeded. Those children were enemies of Vader and they were in a war time situation. So I guess a soldier killing children in an enemies village under direct orders is the same as killing your own children. Is that what you're saying ?
Your argument is: "killing children doesn't count because it ruins my argument". Bit silly, but expected. A similar situation isn't 'Kylo killing his father' and 'Vader not killing his son'. A parent's love for their children transcends a child's love for the parent, generally speaking. So your comparison fails.Kylo's playing catch up at best and we'll also have to see if Kylo can pull the trigger in killing his mother, we see him about to cry in the trailer...
Edit: In case you missed it, here is a still of Kylo about to cry
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If that's the case why didn't Vader do so.
Kylo already surpassed him and ordering the deaths of all ages at the beginning of the film wasn't hard on him.
Anakin cried multiple times in rots by the way.
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You favor Vader I favor Kylo. I prefer the new bad guys you stand by your Ot relics.
Originally posted by Robtard
how can cry-lo ren resist the diabolical urge to push the button that could end his mother's existance?
will his tortured mind give in to its uncontrollable desires? can he withstand the temptation to push the button that,
even now, beckons him closer? will he succumb to the maddening urge to eradicate the resistance?
At the MERE PUSH of a SINGLE BUTTON!
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
how can cry-lo ren resist the diabolical urge to push the button that could end his mother's existance?
will his tortured mind give in to its uncontrollable desires? can he withstand the temptation to push the button that,
even now, beckons him closer? will he succumb to the maddening urge to eradicate the resistance?At the MERE PUSH of a SINGLE BUTTON!
😂
I read that in the same voice as the voice in the 'Space Madness' ep
Originally posted by quanchi112
He was not in a hologram in the new trailer. We already knew prior to that he had force capabilities and was quite powerful. You seem entirely ignorant with Star Wars so stick to Dorothy and Toto.
Ignorant?
I'm stating every scene in TFA where Snoke only ever appeared as a hologram.
A weakened, damaged individual who did nothing but bully a brat.
But go ahead & click your red heels, Quan...base all you faith in a few seconds of a trailer to a film that hasn't been released yet. 🙄
Originally posted by Esau CairnYes, ignorant because you're ignoring what's been stated about the character in interviews prior to release of the first film, the trailer for the character who appears in the second film, and the fact he's already been described in the film as a force user. You said something entirely ignorant because you're stupid, uninformed and trying to come across as witty.
Ignorant?I'm stating every scene in TFA where Snoke only ever appeared as a hologram.
A weakened, damaged individual who did nothing but bully a brat.
But go ahead & click your red heels, Quan...base all you faith in a few seconds of a trailer to a film that hasn't been released yet. 🙄
Just stop. Take your shit show elsewhere, loser.
Originally posted by Firefly218
Tbf narratively, killing Han Solo is worse than killing a bunch of no-name children characters. That 64 year old man is more real to audiences than 20 children we don't know
Because the audience is dumb.
But humouring that for a sec Han Solo’s Death would turn out not to be completely pointless if it sparked something in Kylo which puts him down the path of redemption later.
Originally posted by Darth ThorI see that but I'm personally never fuking forgiving that guy. I mean he didn't even give Han that great of a death tbh.
Because the audience is dumb.But humouring that for a sec Han Solo’s Death would turn out not to be completely pointless if it sparked something in Kylo which puts him down the path of redemption later.
I’d personally love it for him to turn to the Lightside. So what if he killed his dad. His dad knew he’s embraced the dark side, yet just walked right up the him on his own. I get Leia basically forced him to, but she was being retarded. Turning him back requires planting seeds. He was never gonna just got home with Han like that, or just let Han go.
Besides, We need some damn Jedi!
Originally posted by FlyattractorAnakin wore a diaper himself throughout the films and after he killed kids his less powerful Jedi master wrecked him. Poor Anakin.
[b]Vader killed little Kids in diapers. Kylie still wears a diaper.Your illusion on this subject it hilarious.
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Your feelings don't matter. You're used to that I know for a fact.